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journeyman1

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11 posts

83 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Looking for some advice please guys. Ive asked the diesel petrol on here and got my awnser greatly appreciated.

I drive diesel 1.7 ix35 se nav but only doing about 3600 to 4000 per year, mostly all short runs in and around town. Im a retired person that does some volantry work. ( port & seafarers chaplain).
Ive been shown by my nearest Hyundai dealer a nice Tuscon (i have fancied owning one of these for a while but lack of funds) what ive been shown is se nav tuscon blue drive( what ever that is) on a 17 plate with 18,000 miles thats not an issues but it has a 1.6 gdi engine would that be ok for me poodling about locally. I know sod all about cars/ engines really. I only know what you guys have said that no way should i be on a diesel with such low mileage. Woild reall appreciate some help/ advice. I would like the tuscon but its the 1.6 engine, ive only seen pictures of the car its coming from another dealer next week for me to see and have a test drive. Finance/ cost etc has all been sorted, its just this engine. Thanks in anticipation guys.

RicksAlfas

14,259 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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This review rates the car, but not the engine:
https://uk.motor1.com/reviews/136927/2017-hyundai-...

"Two diesel engines in four power outputs and a solitary petrol option make up the Tucson’s motive power choices, although the 1.6 GDi petrol unit with 132hp is best avoided as it’s slow, not particularly good for CO2 emissions and one of the thirstiest versions there is."

Have you looked at the Kia Sportage? That is a similarly styled car which seems very popular.

captain_cynic

16,234 posts

116 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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journeyman1 said:
Looking for some advice please guys. Ive asked the diesel petrol on here and got my awnser greatly appreciated.

I drive diesel 1.7 ix35 se nav but only doing about 3600 to 4000 per year, mostly all short runs in and around town. Im a retired person that does some volantry work. ( port & seafarers chaplain).
Ive been shown by my nearest Hyundai dealer a nice Tuscon (i have fancied owning one of these for a while but lack of funds) what ive been shown is se nav tuscon blue drive( what ever that is) on a 17 plate with 18,000 miles thats not an issues but it has a 1.6 gdi engine would that be ok for me poodling about locally. I know sod all about cars/ engines really. I only know what you guys have said that no way should i be on a diesel with such low mileage. Woild reall appreciate some help/ advice. I would like the tuscon but its the 1.6 engine, ive only seen pictures of the car its coming from another dealer next week for me to see and have a test drive. Finance/ cost etc has all been sorted, its just this engine. Thanks in anticipation guys.
The 1.6L GDI is fine. The Hyundai Gamma engine has a long history and is pretty solid.

Moonpie21

591 posts

113 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Sticking with the brand, wouldn't something smaller and petrol be better, like the Hyundai Kona, hey you might even consider electric (budget may be an issue).

My ignorance is wonderful here...

But do diesel engines need more ad blue/servicing with shorter distances like this. As per the OP surely given the choice petrol, hybrid or electric are better choices for town short distance driving.

Therefore any offer on the diesel Tuscon from the dealer is just their best attempt at shifting stock and getting you to trade in for something shiney and a different configuration or vehicle would be more suitable to your driving needs...

journeyman1

Original Poster:

11 posts

83 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Thank you for present awnsers. I saw that poor review re the 1.6, but hyundai have offered me a lot so will stay with them. Car im looking at has 3 year care plan 4 years warranty left and apr reduced to single figures.

HustleRussell

26,000 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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journeyman1 said:
Thank you for present awnsers. I saw that poor review re the 1.6, but hyundai have offered me a lot so will stay with them. Car im looking at has 3 year care plan 4 years warranty left and apr reduced to single figures.
Firstly, get a petrol because diesel is the wrong choice for local journeys and 4,000 miles a year.

Secondly, you say they have reduced the APR to single figures as if they've done you a favour but it's not a good deal.

You are buying the wrong car and paying too much for it. Lose / lose.

RicksAlfas

14,259 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Just for clarity, the GDi engine is a petrol. I think some posters are seeing the "D" and assuming it is diesel.

HustleRussell

26,000 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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RicksAlfas said:
Just for clarity, the GDi engine is a petrol. I think some posters are seeing the "D" and assuming it is diesel.
Guilty

dmsims

7,327 posts

288 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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In your position consider a PHEV

HustleRussell

26,000 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Won't your bank lend you the money at 3-4%

Isn't that better than paying 9.9% or whatever you've agreed?

captain_cynic

16,234 posts

116 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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RicksAlfas said:
Just for clarity, the GDi engine is a petrol. I think some posters are seeing the "D" and assuming it is diesel.
GDI stands for Gasoline Direct Injection, but I understand how it can be confusing.

Hyundai should have instructed the media to use its series name, the Gamma engine... but outside of Europe you don't really see many diesel passenger cars so I guess they didn't really think of it.

Monkeylegend

28,248 posts

252 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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HustleRussell said:
You are buying the wrong car and paying too much for it. Lose / lose.
Either I am blind or you are physic but I can't see any figures from OP to say what his deal is or how much he is paying for it.

V6todayEVmanana

831 posts

165 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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captain_cynic said:
GDI stands for Gasoline Direct Injection, .
Is there a worry with injector carbon build up on these type of engines or is it okay with the UK spec petrol.

HustleRussell

26,000 posts

181 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
HustleRussell said:
You are buying the wrong car and paying too much for it. Lose / lose.
Either I am blind or you are physic but I can't see any figures from OP to say what his deal is or how much he is paying for it.
I incorrectly thought the OP was buying a diesel (=more expensive to buy than a petrol).

Also the OP said that he had got the APR down ‘into single figures’- which sounds too high.

journeyman1

Original Poster:

11 posts

83 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Thank you for all responses, especially Captain C who mentions Gamma engine i read somewhere today that the hyundai Gamma engine was good/ok, only trouble was i didnt have a clue what a gamma engine was. Am learning so much on here, many thanks.

captain_cynic

16,234 posts

116 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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V6todayEVmanana said:
captain_cynic said:
GDI stands for Gasoline Direct Injection, .
Is there a worry with injector carbon build up on these type of engines or is it okay with the UK spec petrol.
Never heard about it on engines running Australian petrol (standard grade is RON 91, not 95 like here). I'm going to guess they won't be any worse than any other European or Japanese petrol engine with direct injection.

journeyman1

Original Poster:

11 posts

83 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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The knowledge you guys have totally amazes me, i can navigate you round the worlds oceans, but cars!! Horses for courses i guess.
Many thanks for all your i put. Now ive seen Gamma mentined on here ive looked it up, and for me it comes out ok me.

There is z utube short vid what it does etc, you guys would understand that.

journeyman1

Original Poster:

11 posts

83 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Thank for all you help. I have one more question please.My current ix35 i have 4 new Hankook tyres on them 4000 miles, the Tuscon has 18000 would it be ok to try and get the dealership (as part of deal) to put my Hankooks onto Tuscon? I mean from a safety point.many thanks.

anonymous-user

75 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Before you do anything else, it sounds like you're looking at a one year old used car on high rate non-subsidised dealer finance.

Get onto CarWow and get some quotes for a brand new one - you may well find you could end up paying less overall for a brand new car.

Monkeylegend

28,248 posts

252 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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You can but ask but don't be surprised if they are not keen to do so.

Assuming you are part exchanging the ix35, they could argue they have given you a part ex value based on the car as is, a worn set of tyres could mean more cost to them when it comes to selling your part ex if they intend to put it on their forecourt for sale.

On the other hand they might say yes, so no harm in asking. They might be prepared to do it at a cost to you.