XFR or VXR8 or ISF or C63
XFR or VXR8 or ISF or C63
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ceramicolive

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21 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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First post, be gentle.

I am on the verge of buying one of the above cars, I've saved hard and now i'm ready, the problem being, now that I am finally in a position to buy one I've no idea which one, just when I think I've settled on one a few hours later my mind is wandering to another! First world problems I know.

I'm looking for opinions on people who have owned the cars and what they like and don't like about them, the pitfalls and what to look for.

As a bit of background I will be doing less than 5,000 miles a year and obviously would want it to be as low mileage, reliable (daily) and in as good condition as my budget will allow (£18k)

Thanks in advance

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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C63 no question that’s one heck of a dirty sounding engine

Leon R

3,837 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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As you only mentioned reliability as a requirement I would go ISF if you can find one.

Heaveho

7,370 posts

203 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Another one for an IS-F, great car and one of the few out of many we've had that I genuinely regret letting go.

st4

1,359 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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ISF. Lovely engine and car to drive and build/reliability/running costs the others can’t get close to.

Saying that a VXR8 will be a solid dependable car too. The Mercedes and Jag I wouldn’t touch.

RegMolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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I bought a 2013 XFR 7 months ago. I've been driving for 45 years and this is the most wonderful car I've ever owned in every respect.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
ISF. Lovely engine and car to drive and build/reliability/running costs the others can’t get close to.

Saying that a VXR8 will be a solid dependable car too. The Mercedes and Jag I wouldn’t touch.
Why wouldn’t you take the C63?

Leon R

3,837 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Why wouldn’t you take the C63?
Don't do this.

We all know he has a chip on his shoulder about mercedes and that is why he wouldn't consider the C63.

OP has asked for recommendations from a list of four cars so how about we give them instead of making this thread another argument.

st4

1,359 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Why wouldn’t you take the C63?
In all honesty because they’re nothing special to drive. They don’t put the power down well, they’re much less reliable than the Lexus and not as well made.

st4

1,359 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Leon R said:
Don't do this.

We all know he has a chip on his shoulder about mercedes and that is why he wouldn't consider the C63.

OP has asked for recommendations from a list of four cars so how about we give them instead of making this thread another argument.
And I have. I’ve suggested the Lexus or VXR8

unsprung

6,054 posts

153 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
ISF. Lovely engine and car to drive and build/reliability/running costs the others can’t get close to.

Saying that a VXR8 will be a solid dependable car too. The Mercedes and Jag I wouldn’t touch.
+1

accurate on all counts, I'd say


ceramicolive

Original Poster:

21 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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So are the Jag and Merc unreliable compared with the ISF and the more simple vxr8 or just not as fun/special?

Thanks for the replys so far!

irish boy

3,908 posts

265 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
In all honesty because they’re nothing special to drive. They don’t put the power down well, they’re much less reliable than the Lexus and not as well made.
Not convinced, if you get the facelift c63 to avoid the potential head bolt issue they are a pretty robust and reliable car, and certinly more of an animal then a isf which is a superb car too. Traction problems then find one with a diff, or even better set £1500 aside and buy a quaife.

The vxr8 is a lovely thing too, if one takes your fancy my brother in law is thinking about selling his after 6 years of ownership, black 40k miles immaculate car, pm me for his number, will be under your budget.

hammo19

7,652 posts

225 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Had a VXR8 (love Holdens still have 2) but didn’t get on with auto box. Very practical and so easily upgraded plus brilliant bunch of club members.

I am looking at C63 vs XFR, not thought about ISF which looks awesome. I keep getting distracted by good value S6 and S8s with the Lambo V10.

Sorry I haven’t helped much......

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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st4 said:
In all honesty because they’re nothing special to drive. They don’t put the power down well, they’re much less reliable than the Lexus and not as well made.
Doesn’t the performance pack come with a LSD?

Also watching the Autocar and Evo video reviews on YouTube it would appear the C63 is an epic car

ceramicolive

Original Poster:

21 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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irish boy said:
Not convinced, if you get the facelift c63 to avoid the potential head bolt issue they are a pretty robust and reliable car, and certinly more of an animal then a isf which is a superb car too. Traction problems then find one with a diff, or even better set £1500 aside and buy a quaife.

The vxr8 is a lovely thing too, if one takes your fancy my brother in law is thinking about selling his after 6 years of ownership, black 40k miles immaculate car, pm me for his number, will be under your budget.
Thanks, I will apparently I have to wait 24 hours because I'm a new boy smile

Leon R

3,837 posts

125 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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ceramicolive said:
So are the Jag and Merc unreliable compared with the ISF and the more simple vxr8 or just not as fun/special?

Thanks for the replys so far!
Special is subjective. The Lexus is likely to be more reliable than the Merc or the Jag but neither are known for notorious unreliability. The VXR is the only manual gearbox option which might eliminate the others for you if that matters.

ceramicolive

Original Poster:

21 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Leon R said:
Special is subjective. The Lexus is likely to be more reliable than the Merc or the Jag but neither are known for notorious unreliability. The VXR is the only manual gearbox option which might eliminate the others for you if that matters.
It's a consideration that's for sure. I'm not overly bothered by an auto though as long as it's not horrendously slow witted.

ceramicolive

Original Poster:

21 posts

91 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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irish boy said:
Not convinced, if you get the facelift c63 to avoid the potential head bolt issue they are a pretty robust and reliable car, and certinly more of an animal then a isf which is a superb car too. Traction problems then find one with a diff, or even better set £1500 aside and buy a quaife.

The vxr8 is a lovely thing too, if one takes your fancy my brother in law is thinking about selling his after 6 years of ownership, black 40k miles immaculate car, pm me for his number, will be under your budget.
Is it Auto or manual?

st4

1,359 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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ceramicolive said:
It's a consideration that's for sure. I'm not overly bothered by an auto though as long as it's not horrendously slow witted.
The VXR8 is a really special car too. Also much bigger than the ISF so if you need space...

I’m a big Lexus fan so I’m biased