Tripped and smashed my face.
Tripped and smashed my face.
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Allanv

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3,540 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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It was just before xmas and we had taken a day trip to Glastonbury from Bristol,

Anyway we take the bus after a 2 mile walk to the bus stop as it is easier than driving.

On the way back we get off the bus and we walk across the 4 lane DC, 2 lanes then refuge then 2 more lanes, problem being due to it being dark and it has rained so there was a bit of glare I crossed quickly to make sure I didn't get blatted by a car but did not notice the raised bus stop, so I tripped and literally smashed face first into the pavement and yes lots of blood.

Ever since the pain is getting worse and the headaches are also, my eyesight seems to be a problem as well, I do wear glasses for close work but it seems worse.

Booked an appointment with the docs online for friday and may ask for a call back on Monday to accelerate the process but I wondered if any PH docs might have some idea what I may have done? Apart from hit the floor with my face.

Thank you .,


Edited by Allanv on Sunday 17th February 19:06

Henners

12,423 posts

223 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Is the eyesight a new thing?

I’d be considering an A&E visit tbh.

Although this is from someone who has a ‘thing’ for head stuff after having an accident and forgetting 2 days, this includes waking up in hospital and asking my mother why I was there and my dad who he was eek

Also had a team member go to the walk in centre with double vision... kidney failure and now on the transplant list.

That’s enough scare stories for now hehe

Allanv

Original Poster:

3,540 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Henners said:
Is the eyesight a new thing?

I’d be considering an A&E visit tbh.

Although this is from someone who has a ‘thing’ for head stuff after having an accident and forgetting 2 days, this includes waking up in hospital and asking my mother why I was there and my dad who he was eek

Also had a team member go to the walk in centre with double vision... kidney failure and now on the transplant list.

That’s enough scare stories for now hehe
Thank you for the reply, to be fair the eyesight is just something I am relating to the issue, and yes I will go to A&E and free up the doctor appointment.

JapanRed

1,591 posts

140 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Can’t say what you have done but this is GP territory not A&E.

knk

1,340 posts

300 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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A traumatic head injury with change in vision is definitely A&E territory.

JapanRed

1,591 posts

140 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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knk said:
A traumatic head injury with change in vision is definitely A&E territory.
Don’t provide medical advice when you don’t know what you are talking about. A 2 month old injury is not ED territory. The new term is ED (Emergency Dept) not A&E. It’s for emergencies only. If the OP has managed with it for 2 months it’s not an emergency.

This type of advice is exactly why almost every ED in the country is bursting at the seams.

Edited by JapanRed on Tuesday 19th February 20:37


Edited by JapanRed on Tuesday 19th February 20:38

knk

1,340 posts

300 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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JapanRed said:
knk said:
A traumatic head injury with change in vision is definitely A&E territory.
Don’t provide medical advice when you don’t know what you are talking about. A 2 month old injury is not ED territory. The new term is ED (Emergency Dept) not A&E. It’s for emergencies only. If the OP has managed with it for 2 months it’s not an emergency.

This type of advice is exactly why almost every ED in the country is bursting at the seams.

Edited by JapanRed on Tuesday 19th February 20:37


A traumatic head injury with visual change is most definitely something appropriate for ED, but I missed it was 2m ago!
I do sort of know what I am talking about as a Doctor, GP, with DipIMC, and a PHEC provider and instructor.
I agree 2m is pushing the bounds, but I have seen subdurals present many weeks after a trivial injury, and I would not object too strongly if they turned up with that history when I was doing an ED shift.

Edited by JapanRed on Tuesday 19th February 20:38

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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We need japanreds qualifications now?

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

106 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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That case is going to get an instant referral from the GP....visiting the GP is where the money will be wasted.


dandarez

14,012 posts

312 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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JapanRed said:
knk said:
A traumatic head injury with change in vision is definitely A&E territory.
Don’t provide medical advice when you don’t know what you are talking about. A 2 month old injury is not ED territory. The new term is ED (Emergency Dept) not A&E. It’s for emergencies only. If the OP has managed with it for 2 months it’s not an emergency.

This type of advice is exactly why almost every ED in the country is bursting at the seams.
Since when?
NHS websites still term it A&E. ED - Emergency Department - is the widely used term in the US I believe.
Who comes up with these changes, do a group of overpaid idiots change names for fun? I've come across a few terms.

'Watchful Waiting', who the f dreamt that one up?

Or how about this one?
A friend recently dropped everything to get to hospital (drive of over 2 hrs) because she'd been told her dad had been rushed in.
On arrival was met by a nurse who said her father had had 'heart failure'!
She almost collapsed with shock, had to be sat down. She said she knew dad had not been well, but never expected news like that.
The nurse then told her: 'Oh no, heart failure is not critical, it now simply means his heart is not pumping as it should do. He's in the bed along the corridor waiting to see you.'

Wouldn't it be nice if we knew the new jargon meanings in advance! rolleyes

The Moose

23,676 posts

238 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Isn’t ED what you use Viagra to help?

It’s emergency room here.

DoubleD said:
We need japanreds qualifications now?
And yes, a “qualification-off” please!

ThorB

6,797 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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DoubleD said:
We need japanreds qualifications now?
Can we guess?

I'll go first - receptionist at dentist's surgery?

Robmarriott

2,969 posts

187 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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JapanRed said:
The new term is ED (Emergency Dept) not A&E.
Why does that even matter? Everyone knows exactly what is being referred to.

LordGrover

34,158 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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The Moose said:
Isn’t ED what you use Viagra to help?
I understand ED or erectile dysfunction is not a medical condition, it's an invention of a marketing company employed to sell the little blue pill.

Henners

12,423 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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The Moose said:
Isn’t ED what you use Viagra to help?

It’s emergency room here.

DoubleD said:
We need japanreds qualifications now?
And yes, a “qualification-off” please!
It’ll be like the ‘pilot-off’ a year or so back.

That was fun biggrin

Smitters

4,415 posts

186 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Ring 111. It's a very limited service, because they people on the end of the phone follow a script and pathway, but you may find using the terms head injury, sight issues and so on will ring a bell and get you to the right place faster than waiting for the GP, and without sitting in A&E for hours on end.

ETA: Do this: https://111.nhs.uk/

For what it's worth, I guessed the OPs symptoms and the result was not wait for a GPs appointment. Who'd have thought head injury and sight changes would ring warning bells?

Also Googling NHS ED and NHS A&E should answer any questions on what's the common usage, never mind what some room full of suits have spent £50k on meetings discussing and considering rolling out.

Edited by Smitters on Wednesday 20th February 12:13

CoolHands

23,407 posts

224 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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the A&Es round here are full of people with minor ailments who can't wait for useless appointments in 2 weeks time at GPs. A genuine head injury would be like gold dust I suspect.

BTW I have a degree in economics, so I suspect I'm more highly qualified in medical matters than JapanRed coffee

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in more proof of the idiocy of bureaucracy, having googled the terms, we now get "A&E ED" on some NHS websites. Brilliant. Also, it appears to have first been mooted back in 2003 to begin in 2004. It really caught on then,

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/jan/14/NH...


Edited by CoolHands on Wednesday 20th February 12:44

Henners

12,423 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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CoolHands said:
BTW I have a degree in economics, so I suspect I'm more highly qualified in medical matters than JapanRed coffee


Edited by CoolHands on Wednesday 20th February 12:44
My partner is a medic, ner ner ner ner ner wink


Just waiting for Japanred to play the trump card of being the chief medical officer or something hehe


Don’t keep us in suspense...

geeks

11,624 posts

168 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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Henners said:
My partner is a medic, ner ner ner ner ner wink


Just waiting for Japanred to play the trump card of being the chief medical officer or something hehe


Don’t keep us in suspense...
You'll be fine as long as there isn't a table to update silly

motco

17,608 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th February 2019
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dandarez said:
friend recently dropped everything to get to hospital (drive of over 2 hrs) because she'd been told her dad had been rushed in.
On arrival was met by a nurse who said her father had had 'heart failure'!
She almost collapsed with shock, had to be sat down. She said she knew dad had not been well, but never expected news like that.
The nurse then told her: 'Oh no, heart failure is not critical, it now simply means his heart is not pumping as it should do. He's in the bed along the corridor waiting to see you.'

Wouldn't it be nice if we knew the new jargon meanings in advance! rolleyes
It's the media and others who misuse the term heart failure to describe a heart attack. Heart failure (or congestive heart failure more correctly) is a condition brought about by a steady decline in the efficiency of the heart to pump the blood around. It's a chronic (not acute) condition. My cat has it and he's on blood thinning and diuretic treatments. He's fine mostly, with periods of panting when his heart is working poorly. I am not a medic but have discussed this with those who know. Generally I agree with you about Newspeak terms such as 'RTC' not 'RTA' because it is an attempt to control thought by subtle language changes. This is not an example however.