Cat6 cable
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Hornsey

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250 posts

230 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Can anyone recommend some good quality Cat6 cable at a decent price (and where to get it from. I'll need a couple of 305m boxes of FTP or STP but more urgently need 100m of shielded external grade. Google is a minefield of answers so I'd rather get some real world opinions! Thanks

Australiam

277 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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If the PH collective don't give you the answer you are looking for, PM me & I can get you a price from one of our trusted suppliers.

LordHaveMurci

12,338 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Excel stuff is decent quality.

Mr Pointy

13,435 posts

190 months

Sunday 17th February 2019
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Comms Express are reliable:

https://www.comms-express.com/

megaphone

11,718 posts

282 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I use Mills, their 'Fusion' stuff is fine. https://www.millsltd.com/structured-cabling-produc...

You may have to hunt around for 100m of outdoor, most of it comes in bigger rolls.

Brother D

4,452 posts

207 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Mr Pointy said:
Comms Express are reliable:

https://www.comms-express.com/
Seconded.

OldGermanHeaps

5,184 posts

209 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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I use comtec, always very good.

Mr Pointy

13,435 posts

190 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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megaphone said:
I use Mills, their 'Fusion' stuff is fine. https://www.millsltd.com/structured-cabling-produc...

You may have to hunt around for 100m of outdoor, most of it comes in bigger rolls.
No problem at all:
https://www.comms-express.com/products/ce-cat6-cab...


Hornsey

Original Poster:

250 posts

230 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Mr Pointy said:
Thanks for all the replies. Ideally I'm after shielded external grade cable - the suggestion above is UTP cable.

Has anyone used Kortex cables? They seem cheap and readily available but are they any good?

https://www.kinetic-group.co.uk/kortex_cables/prod...

Weekendrebuild

1,120 posts

94 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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LordHaveMurci said:
Excel stuff is decent quality.
Agree installed 2000m last week good stuff..

Gary C

15,364 posts

210 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Got all mine from Kenable. Needed outdoor stuff and it was the best value for solid core copper stuff I could find.

<£40 for 100m outdoor shielded.

Edited by Gary C on Monday 18th February 20:26

megaphone

11,718 posts

282 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Out of interest why do you want shielded? Unless you're installing in an environment where there is potential interference then standard UTP will be fine, I've installed loads of CAT cable, can't think of a time I've needed shielded.

Edited by megaphone on Tuesday 19th February 07:35


Edited by megaphone on Tuesday 19th February 07:36

OldGermanHeaps

5,184 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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you need to be very careful with shielded, if the screen isnt properlu gronded it will pick up more inerference not less, also if you are using it for analogue audio, cctv, hdbaset etc the increased capacitance causes problems.

Hornsey

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250 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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megaphone said:
Out of interest why do you want shielded? Unless you're installing in an environment where there is potential interference then standard UTP will be fine, I've installed loads of CAT cable, can't think of a time I've needed shielded.
Maybe that's my inexperience showing. There will be a short length (maybe 1m) run parallel to some T&E for a lighting circuit with around 200mm separation, and the cable will also cross several others including a buried 3ph cable. I assumed shielded would offer additional protection from EMI but if not then maybe standard UTP will be fine?

The external grade cable will be run from my house to the garage in underground ducting for CCTV cameras and an ethernet socket (4 cable runs)

dhutch

17,951 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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From what I can tell, while ideally you have 300mm separation, in practice you will not have an issue with UTP cable for that.

External grade just has a slightly thicker and move UV stable outer. Almost any brand should be fine as far as I can tell.

We appear to be using emitex, cat 6 utp Electrican had half a 305m box left from another job.

Edited by dhutch on Tuesday 19th February 19:48

LordHaveMurci

12,338 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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You won't need external grade for ducting, it has a PE coating to make it more UV resistant, not much of an issue in ducting!

Mr Pointy

13,435 posts

190 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Hornsey said:
Maybe that's my inexperience showing. There will be a short length (maybe 1m) run parallel to some T&E for a lighting circuit with around 200mm separation, and the cable will also cross several others including a buried 3ph cable. I assumed shielded would offer additional protection from EMI but if not then maybe standard UTP will be fine?

The external grade cable will be run from my house to the garage in underground ducting for CCTV cameras and an ethernet socket (4 cable runs)
You don't need shielded cable for those two scenarios. If the duct is dry you don't need exterior cable but if it gets flooded you might want to put in an exterior grade cable.

Gary C

15,364 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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Why not use shielded though ?

Just be careful not to setup a loop, just ground it at one end and everyones happy ?

Problems ive seen at work is when cables have their shields connected at both ends and we end up with a noise loop ( its a large site and ensuring equal grounding is impossible.

If there is a noise source and it effects the signal, do you really want to have to strip it all out again ?