Anyone gone from an Android phone to iPhone?
Discussion
Why? Any regrets?
Currently on a Pixel 2XL. It’s a good phone, but not exactly the most reliable since I’ve had it. However, I do like it when it behaves itself. Used Android phones for years and always tended to prefer stock / Google Android.
As I said, not the most reliable, and although I’d like it to last, I’m not always convinced it will. I could cash it in, cancel my contract and get an iPhone XR through work for £10 a month.
I would lose the camera quality of the Pixel 2XL; but then DXOmark actually scores the XR better and calls it the best single lens camera
I am pretty well invested in the Google ecosystem, however, this hardly seems much of a boundary as the iOS offerings are pretty good, maybe not quite up to the standard on Android but not too far off.
I also have an iPad Pro 12.9 which I really like, and the iPhone would integrate with this.
However, I would lose Android related functionality - things like YouTube Vanced, Torque Pro, ability to customise the OS, etc.
Any thoughts on the above? Hopefully it wont turn into a b
hfest 
Currently on a Pixel 2XL. It’s a good phone, but not exactly the most reliable since I’ve had it. However, I do like it when it behaves itself. Used Android phones for years and always tended to prefer stock / Google Android.
As I said, not the most reliable, and although I’d like it to last, I’m not always convinced it will. I could cash it in, cancel my contract and get an iPhone XR through work for £10 a month.
I would lose the camera quality of the Pixel 2XL; but then DXOmark actually scores the XR better and calls it the best single lens camera
I am pretty well invested in the Google ecosystem, however, this hardly seems much of a boundary as the iOS offerings are pretty good, maybe not quite up to the standard on Android but not too far off.
I also have an iPad Pro 12.9 which I really like, and the iPhone would integrate with this.
However, I would lose Android related functionality - things like YouTube Vanced, Torque Pro, ability to customise the OS, etc.
Any thoughts on the above? Hopefully it wont turn into a b
hfest Yes, went from Samsung Galaxy 6 Edge to iPhone Xr and up to now no regrets. The Samsung was always a bit of a problem when running Waze, shutting down unexpectedly, pixelating display after about an hour, freezing etc. also always ran extremely hot when running apps, get none of these problems with the Xr plus the fact that I've got the convenience of the esim/nano-sim combination for travel.
WyrleyD said:
Yes, went from Samsung Galaxy 6 Edge to iPhone Xr and up to now no regrets. The Samsung was always a bit of a problem when running Waze, shutting down unexpectedly, pixelating display after about an hour, freezing etc. also always ran extremely hot when running apps, get none of these problems with the Xr plus the fact that I've got the convenience of the esim/nano-sim combination for travel.
So you went from a 4 year old phone to a brand new phone and noticed an improvement? No way!I've switched back and forth several times, currently iOS.
I really liked the Google Nexus phones but since they've been discontinued none of the current crop of Android devices really grabs me.
As for differences, they're so trivial I barely notice. Work uses Exchange/Office 365 and both platforms have decent support. I use both Windows and MacOS at home and at work and use both GMail and iCloud email for personal stuff. Syncing data is so straightforward these days you barely need to give it much thought.
I really liked the Google Nexus phones but since they've been discontinued none of the current crop of Android devices really grabs me.
As for differences, they're so trivial I barely notice. Work uses Exchange/Office 365 and both platforms have decent support. I use both Windows and MacOS at home and at work and use both GMail and iCloud email for personal stuff. Syncing data is so straightforward these days you barely need to give it much thought.
Dave. said:
What part of it isn't reliable?
You had to ask Bearing in mind I've probably forgotten about quite a few, but a list includes but not restricted to:-
Bluetooth issues - would not stay connected to my Bluetooth speaker stably, at some point using a Bluetooth headset didn't work for calls - both now fixed with software updates.
Random reboots (not particularly common)
Charging issues - intermittently refuses to charge. Especially if it's cold ie in the winter. It has the documented 20c bug which means if its below that it won't fast charge until it reaches that temperature. When I say won't fast charge I literally mean it'll charge at about 1% every 5 minutes.
USB C dongle failed after 3 weeks forcing me to give up and use Bluetooth headphones instead.
Lagging began to occur at some point fixed with a factory reset.
GPS is poor and struggles to get a lock on my location making it useless for navigation especially by foot in a city.
Photos occasionally don't appear in gallery after they've been taken. Camera app randomly crashes - not all that often but you can guarantee it'll happen when I'm trying to take a photo quickly.
Phone frequently unlocks in my pocket and starts doing stuff without my knowledge. Despite my best efforts to make it stop.
There's probably some other stuff I've forgotten about. Apart from all that it's fine
To be fair writing all that down makes it sound like a total lemon but in reality, day to day it's mostly alright but it does seem prone to being annoying and usually at the least convenient time.
menguin said:
WyrleyD said:
Yes, went from Samsung Galaxy 6 Edge to iPhone Xr and up to now no regrets. The Samsung was always a bit of a problem when running Waze, shutting down unexpectedly, pixelating display after about an hour, freezing etc. also always ran extremely hot when running apps, get none of these problems with the Xr plus the fact that I've got the convenience of the esim/nano-sim combination for travel.
So you went from a 4 year old phone to a brand new phone and noticed an improvement? No way!TameRacingDriver said:
Why? Any regrets?
Had to use an Iphone for work... Couldn't wait to get rid of it (honestly preferred the now defunct Windows Phone it was replaced with). Basically lost all the features of Android (chief amongst them was the dynamic brightness adjustment... Because I loved getting my retinas burned out at 1 AM). Found the entire experience more restrictive and less initiative. Every time you use it you'll find something else you're not allowed to do. Everything on it was designed to ensure I couldn't escape the Apple ecosystem.
Your Pixel sounds like a complete dog though, I had a Nexus 5x for nigh upon 3 years and didn't miss a beat. Fortunately you're not restricted to one vendor with Android. I replaced my Nexus with a Nokia 7.1 and haven't had any issues (apart from the glass back being a bit slippery, but a £5 case fixed that). I'd recomend the new Nokia Androids to anyone who wants a functional phone and no vendor lock-in.
captain_cynic said:
Had to use an Iphone for work... Couldn't wait to get rid of it (honestly preferred the now defunct Windows Phone it was replaced with).
Basically lost all the features of Android (chief amongst them was the dynamic brightness adjustment... Because I loved getting my retinas burned out at 1 AM). Found the entire experience more restrictive and less initiative. Every time you use it you'll find something else you're not allowed to do. Everything on it was designed to ensure I couldn't escape the Apple ecosystem.
Your Pixel sounds like a complete dog though, I had a Nexus 5x for nigh upon 3 years and didn't miss a beat.
I'm thinking about these restrictions with ios. I'm not sure it's as big deal for me as many people make it out to be. What do I do on my phone? Basically, take photos (camera is quite important), online banking, listening to music (vast majority streaming now), occasional video, reading forums and reddit and whatnot, keeping in touch (obviously, it's a phone), keeping notes and pretty much that's it. An iPhone can easily do all of those things. Basically lost all the features of Android (chief amongst them was the dynamic brightness adjustment... Because I loved getting my retinas burned out at 1 AM). Found the entire experience more restrictive and less initiative. Every time you use it you'll find something else you're not allowed to do. Everything on it was designed to ensure I couldn't escape the Apple ecosystem.
Your Pixel sounds like a complete dog though, I had a Nexus 5x for nigh upon 3 years and didn't miss a beat.
What I don't like the idea of is having to use iTunes to copy things to it, but then in the 15 months I've had this pixel I've not done that once anyway.
I also like being able to customise it but even then I do less of that than ever and in reality it's just a waste of my time and now I pretty much live with the same setup constantly anyway.
Brightness well my iPad doesn't seem to have any problems reducing the brightness for dark rooms without any intervention from me. If anything android has always been more finicky at this.
Finally maybe a minor point to some but I haven't found an android keyboard yet that can hold a candle to the built in one in ios. I can type mortal drunk on one and it still seems to know what I mean; I've read that ios actually invisibly enlarges buttons that it thinks you're going to press before you press them for greater accuracy and it seems to work! The android one no matter what I use it seems to go from good to crap seemingly with no pattern at all (in fact it's in one of its crap moods). I'm not expecting many to agree but it's definitely something I've noticed. I end up switching constantly between swiftkey and gboard and finding them both equally rubbish, but yeah I guess you can put a pretty background on it!
And if anything stock android is becoming more like ios by the month, with a lot of power user stuff being taken out e.g why can I no longer select a WiFi network or Bluetooth device now from the quick toggles? I now have to long press to go into the settings. Why is it hiding more than 4 notifications even though I don't have a notch? Even the UI design is copying Apple but they aren't even consistent about it.
Don't like Samsung due to their bloated skins and superfluous software, and that goes for the Chinese brands and LG too.
I'm getting quite disillusioned with android generally. They dropped their tablets now for chromeos which is no better than Windows 10 for tablet use and arguably worse for everything else. It took me a while to get the iPad but now I wouldn't change it. I know it's limited but it just doesn't seem to be a problem for me.
It's like I really wanted to live in the Google ecosystem but substandard experiences are preventing me from doing so and there seems to be a bit of an uprising about the privacy element. I'm not kidding myself apple are saints but they do seem better than Google here.
As for the phone being a dog well I think it just seems par for the course with android, either I've had no luck at all or it really is a bit buggy. But then I'm not surprised as really it's a bit like Windows, but for a phone! The paired down nature of ios seems if nothing else to deliver a very consistent, fluid, and stable performance. Almost to the point of being boring but I'm getting bored with the issues I'm seeing now, so...
Yet part of me looks at this phone, and in some ways would rather keep it even if just because they are still fairly rare and it's different to everyone else's phone. With an iPhone I'd just feel like one of the sheep!
The following features of Android mean I would never get an iPhone.
1)Memory card slot, nice to be able to store all my music in one place and swap when I get a new phone.
2)The ability to copy over music without having to go through iTunes
3)Emulator software, I have Gameboy, SNES and Commodore 64 emulators on my phone and love being able to play a quick game of Tetris or Mario.
Finally the price, I have a Honor 8X with a 6.5 inch screen that I paid £230 for. a 6.5 inch iPhone XS is £1099 and it has a bigger notch on the screen. When I am bored of it/drop it/it stops working/a new shiny thing comes out I will just buy a new one.
1)Memory card slot, nice to be able to store all my music in one place and swap when I get a new phone.
2)The ability to copy over music without having to go through iTunes
3)Emulator software, I have Gameboy, SNES and Commodore 64 emulators on my phone and love being able to play a quick game of Tetris or Mario.
Finally the price, I have a Honor 8X with a 6.5 inch screen that I paid £230 for. a 6.5 inch iPhone XS is £1099 and it has a bigger notch on the screen. When I am bored of it/drop it/it stops working/a new shiny thing comes out I will just buy a new one.
TameRacingDriver said:
Dave. said:
What part of it isn't reliable?
You had to ask Bearing in mind I've probably forgotten about quite a few, but a list includes but not restricted to:-
Bluetooth issues - would not stay connected to my Bluetooth speaker stably, at some point using a Bluetooth headset didn't work for calls - both now fixed with software updates.
Random reboots (not particularly common)
Charging issues - intermittently refuses to charge. Especially if it's cold ie in the winter. It has the documented 20c bug which means if its below that it won't fast charge until it reaches that temperature. When I say won't fast charge I literally mean it'll charge at about 1% every 5 minutes.
USB C dongle failed after 3 weeks forcing me to give up and use Bluetooth headphones instead.
Lagging began to occur at some point fixed with a factory reset.
GPS is poor and struggles to get a lock on my location making it useless for navigation especially by foot in a city.
Photos occasionally don't appear in gallery after they've been taken. Camera app randomly crashes - not all that often but you can guarantee it'll happen when I'm trying to take a photo quickly.
Phone frequently unlocks in my pocket and starts doing stuff without my knowledge. Despite my best efforts to make it stop.
There's probably some other stuff I've forgotten about. Apart from all that it's fine
To be fair writing all that down makes it sound like a total lemon but in reality, day to day it's mostly alright but it does seem prone to being annoying and usually at the least convenient time.
If it is, get it replaced, if it's not, get it rooted and stick lineage on it and see if that fixes it.
You could wipe it and put the latest factory image on there (rather than an early version and umpteen updates).
Joey Deacon said:
The following features of Android mean I would never get an iPhone.
1)Memory card slot, nice to be able to store all my music in one place and swap when I get a new phone.
2)The ability to copy over music without having to go through iTunes
3)Emulator software, I have Gameboy, SNES and Commodore 64 emulators on my phone and love being able to play a quick game of Tetris or Mario.
Finally the price, I have a Honor 8X with a 6.5 inch screen that I paid £230 for. a 6.5 inch iPhone XS is £1099 and it has a bigger notch on the screen. When I am bored of it/drop it/it stops working/a new shiny thing comes out I will just buy a new one.
1. Had one on my s7, never really used it. Not a big hoarder1)Memory card slot, nice to be able to store all my music in one place and swap when I get a new phone.
2)The ability to copy over music without having to go through iTunes
3)Emulator software, I have Gameboy, SNES and Commodore 64 emulators on my phone and love being able to play a quick game of Tetris or Mario.
Finally the price, I have a Honor 8X with a 6.5 inch screen that I paid £230 for. a 6.5 inch iPhone XS is £1099 and it has a bigger notch on the screen. When I am bored of it/drop it/it stops working/a new shiny thing comes out I will just buy a new one.
2. YES. That's the single thing I hate about the iPhone.
3. I've thought about doing that many times but i never get around to it. If it was important I guess I'd have done it by now!
As for the cost I can get the XR from work for free and £7.68 a month so you can see why I might be tempted!
Dave. said:
Mostly software related, is it still in warranty?
If it is, get it replaced, if it's not, get it rooted and stick lineage on it and see if that fixes it.
You could wipe it and put the latest factory image on there (rather than an early version and umpteen updates).
Thought about rooting but been down that road before and never been happy, the ROMs seem to have more issues than the stock image and rooting causes issues with banking software so I'd rather not in all honesty. If it is, get it replaced, if it's not, get it rooted and stick lineage on it and see if that fixes it.
You could wipe it and put the latest factory image on there (rather than an early version and umpteen updates).
TameRacingDriver said:
As for the cost I can get the XR from work for free and £7.68 a month so you can see why I might be tempted!
Before you commit I would go and have a good look at the XR if I were you. The bezels look massive and the screen is actually pretty low resolution. Oh and the PPI is the same as an iPhone 4..."The iPhone XR's resolution has been bumped to 1792x828 over the 1334x750 tally of the iPhone 8, but the pixels-per-inch count remains the same: 326 ppi. Believe it or not, that's the same exact ppi as the original Retina display on the now-tiny iPhone 4 – from 2010."
They are charging £749 for a phone that has a lower resolution than a £100 android phone.
Joey Deacon said:
Before you commit I would go and have a good look at the XR if I were you. The bezels look massive and the screen is actually pretty low resolution. Oh and the PPI is the same as an iPhone 4...
"The iPhone XR's resolution has been bumped to 1792x828 over the 1334x750 tally of the iPhone 8, but the pixels-per-inch count remains the same: 326 ppi. Believe it or not, that's the same exact ppi as the original Retina display on the now-tiny iPhone 4 – from 2010."
They are charging £749 for a phone that has a lower resolution than a £100 android phone.
I have been using one this morning, as I am the guy responsible for handing them out to our users when they get them! I have to say from what I've seen so far, I like it."The iPhone XR's resolution has been bumped to 1792x828 over the 1334x750 tally of the iPhone 8, but the pixels-per-inch count remains the same: 326 ppi. Believe it or not, that's the same exact ppi as the original Retina display on the now-tiny iPhone 4 – from 2010."
They are charging £749 for a phone that has a lower resolution than a £100 android phone.
The bezels are smaller than those on the 2XL, OK maybe not as small as the XS and XS Max but honestly who cares, I don't mind a bit of bezel anyway (accidental touches were a big problem on my old S7Edge).
In all honesty, the screen resolution is a complete non-issue (in fact the PPI rating is still higher than my iPad Pro - no complaints there, and WAY higher than any TV or monitor I've used). The screen in fact doesn't really look any worse than the 2XL screen, maybe with the exception of the blacks (AMOLED v LCD) but this really isn't any kind of big issue at all, not like I watch hours of videos, if I do, then its the odd YT video and thats it.
The issue it totally overblown, there is more to screen quality than resolution, and in all honesty, I've been saying for years any greater than 1080P on a phone is total overkill (unless you want to use it with VR - I don't and never will). My eyesight is pretty good too so its not like its just because I'm blind. I'm sure there will be those who insist that they can see individual pixels on an XR from 10 meters away but that's just bluster.
Edited by TameRacingDriver on Thursday 21st February 13:50
I've ordered one
I can hand it back at any time if I don't want to keep it with no penalties. It reduces my monthly bill from over 31 quid down to under 8 quid. Having played with it this morning (I like it) and given the universally positive experiences with my iPads recently, the fact I've had android for years and actually fancy a change, I don't see any reason not to at least try it.
I can hand it back at any time if I don't want to keep it with no penalties. It reduces my monthly bill from over 31 quid down to under 8 quid. Having played with it this morning (I like it) and given the universally positive experiences with my iPads recently, the fact I've had android for years and actually fancy a change, I don't see any reason not to at least try it.
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