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Blue62

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10,276 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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I am in the market for a new projector, new cinema room set up means my current machine doesn't quite work with dimensions and ceiling lift, meaning the screens too high.

Reading good reports about the Epsom TW7400, it would work well and is a good price, but not full 4K and I'm wondering if Ivwill notice a big difference from my current JVC machine?

R8Steve

4,150 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Can you not angle your current projector down and adjust the keystone settings?

Blue62

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10,276 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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R8Steve said:
Can you not angle your current projector down and adjust the keystone settings?
No, it sits in a new ceiling lift and is at the limit, it's just a bit too high for comfort. I've tested the Epsom and impressed with the picture crispness, just concerned that 4K is compromised and now viewing more stuff onn4k.

R8Steve

4,150 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Blue62 said:
R8Steve said:
Can you not angle your current projector down and adjust the keystone settings?
No, it sits in a new ceiling lift and is at the limit, it's just a bit too high for comfort. I've tested the Epsom and impressed with the picture crispness, just concerned that 4K is compromised and now viewing more stuff onn4k.
Ahh, ok, what is the current JVC one you have?

JEA1K

2,687 posts

246 months

Thursday 21st February 2019
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Depends how old your JVC is. They degrade over time, albeit very slightly a new projector will always look brighter. We've installed 7300's, 9300's and now 9400's and they're great for the money. We generally install Sonys but the next couple of installs will be the new JVC's which are outstanding.

h0b0

8,902 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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I just picked up a used but in perfect condition Sony 285 for $2400. That's not much more than your Epson budget and gives true 4k performance.

anonymous-user

77 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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R8Steve said:
Can you not angle your current projector down and adjust the keystone settings?
Do avoid this at all costs. Once you apply keystone correction the whole image has to be processed and altered by the projector. You no longer get 1:1 pixel mapping, and consequently it degrades the whole picture.

Applying keystone basically hands a final stage of image processing over to your projector, which is usually a bad thing

JEA1K

2,687 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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h0b0 said:
I just picked up a used but in perfect condition Sony 285 for $2400. That's not much more than your Epson budget and gives true 4k performance.
Assuming you're in the USA as the entry level 4K projector is the VPL-VW275 which retails at £5k in the UK, There isn't a hope in hell you'd get near the Epson on price.

h0b0

8,902 posts

219 months

Friday 22nd February 2019
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JEA1K said:
h0b0 said:
I just picked up a used but in perfect condition Sony 285 for $2400. That's not much more than your Epson budget and gives true 4k performance.
Assuming you're in the USA as the entry level 4K projector is the VPL-VW275 which retails at £5k in the UK, There isn't a hope in hell you'd get near the Epson on price.
Yes, I am US based and was guessing the second hand Sony would be equivalent to a new Epson. Having been on ebay.co.uk that does not appear to be the case.



OldSkoolRS

7,085 posts

202 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Depending on what JVC you currently have, you may take a step backwards in contrast/black level going to Epsom. The 285 Sony especially has a poor reputation for contrast (and no DI either to help). The 4K JVCs apparently have less of a throw than the previous Xxxxx series, so might not suit either if that is part of the problem.

One possible solution might be to invert the projector: If it's on a lift, I presume it is stood on it's 'feet' in desktop mode? If you could come up with a way to turn it upside down then you should have enough range to shift the image to suit, unless you are at the extreme range of zoom.

I use a flush mount for my X7500 which is mounted directly on the ceiling and have ample range to drop the image down to my screen (I could have the bottom of the image on my floor if I needed to). If you could make a small 'table ' that straddles the JVC and stands on the lift base, then hang the JVC underneath this 'table' perhaps it would do the trick. As a test you could (carefully) lay the projector upside down on the lift (perhaps protected by a towel) and test out the zoom/shift range.


JEA1K

2,687 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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h0b0 said:
I just picked up a used but in perfect condition Sony 285 for $2400. That's not much more than your Epson budget and gives true 4k performance.
Assuming you're in the USA as the entry level 4K projector is the VPL-VW275 which retails at £5k in the UK, There isn't a hope in hell you'd get near the Epson on price.

mgv8

1,657 posts

294 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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A lot of people talk about needing 4K, when our eyes are a lot more sensitive to colour than detail. I bet with a good projector that most could not tell the difference.

Blue62

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10,276 posts

175 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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mgv8 said:
A lot of people talk about needing 4K, when our eyes are a lot more sensitive to colour than detail. I bet with a good projector that most could not tell the difference.
I suspect you are right, it's just that somewhere in my brain I will be telling myself that it's not full 4k and could therefore be better! I have a demo booked in at home, so it should be possible for me to make a valid comparison and will post my impressions.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

270 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Blue62 said:
I suspect you are right, it's just that somewhere in my brain I will be telling myself that it's not full 4k and could therefore be better! I have a demo booked in at home, so it should be possible for me to make a valid comparison and will post my impressions.
So, what did you end up doing?