320,325,330 relaibilty?
320,325,330 relaibilty?
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Mark300zx

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1,446 posts

273 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Helping a mate get a 2005 ish convertible BMW and wondered if the above were reliable, or if there are any to avoid?

Deep Thought

38,394 posts

218 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Mark300zx said:
Helping a mate get a 2005 ish convertible BMW and wondered if the above were reliable, or if there are any to avoid?
d or i?

Mark300zx

Original Poster:

1,446 posts

273 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Petrol only.

Deep Thought

38,394 posts

218 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Mark300zx said:
Petrol only.
From memory a 320i of that era wont be turbo'd and is a bit gutless and a four pot.

325i, IMHO has all the fuel consumption of the 330i but not the performance.

Thus on that basis alone i'd be looking towards a 330i. I cant think reliability among them will be a great +/- %. Aim for a good service history (ideally over serviced) and do his due diligence.

Jamescrs

5,758 posts

86 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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I had a 320i of that age, I never had an issue in the 18 months I owned it engine wise, it was always considered to be a poor car in the owners groups but I found it fine.

It wasn't fast though

SouthHamsGaz

629 posts

144 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Get the 330i.

It is the M54 lump which is pretty much bullet proof when looked after. Got the same engine in my Z4. Generally regarded as much more reliable than the 2.0 lump on the Z4 forum, which I can only assume is also the same between E46 and E85. The 2.5 is pretty much as thirsty, but less powerful.

Oil consumption can sometimes be high on these, which is normally down to the CCV getting blocked.
On mine I did what is known as the 'o2 pilot' mod. Went from using around 1L per thousand miles to virtually non at all. Only took an hour or so and cost less than £10 to do.

Check the rear subframe mounting points too, they are the same floor pan as the M3, and are known to crack in the same way, but to a lesser extent being less powerful.

Alan_B

49 posts

93 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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3.0 is the one to go for. Consider a cooling system overhaul as part of your budget. Rads like to bow, thermostats stick open and expansion tanks crack. Very easy worked at though. Replacing those is a leisurely afternoons work.

Challo

12,137 posts

176 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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I had a 320 which is a 6 cylinder. Smooth, and relaxing to drive but does lack performance.

Look for a 325 or 330 if possible

Deep Thought

38,394 posts

218 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Challo said:
I had a 320 which is a 6 cylinder. Smooth, and relaxing to drive but does lack performance.

Look for a 325 or 330 if possible
I'm almost certain a 320i of the era the O/P is talking about is a four pot NA.

Older e36 coupe 320i's were a six pot.

Edited by Deep Thought on Saturday 23 February 18:43

DoubleD

22,154 posts

129 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Ive heard of a lot of horror stories with the 320i.

NiceCupOfTea

25,516 posts

272 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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M54 is a peach of an engine, and inherently pretty reliable. Things to watch out for are oil consumption (probably rocker cover gasket, oil filter housing gasket, or breather - all easily fixed), and cooling system (best to budget for new water pump/rad/header tank & pumps).

e46 330 is a great car and (IMHO) last of the really good ones. Do watch for rust though, and boot floor cracks.

Mark300zx

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1,446 posts

273 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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It looks like he may be able to afford the next model e90, is that still the same engine?

Joelonghair

274 posts

93 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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No not the same M54 Engine. I believe they came in N52 and N53 versions, which had around 25-30hp on the M54, and of which the earlier N52 is slightly down on power but more reliable than the N53.

jonwm

2,664 posts

135 months

Saturday 23rd February 2019
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Friend of mine had a 320i on a 2010 e90 and it's up to 85k now and its never seen as much as an oil change on the last 4 years hes had it and it's never cost him a penny. Still sounds fine no rattles or anything.

Mr Tidy

28,930 posts

148 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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I had a 52 plate E46 325ti Sport Compact with the M54 engine for three years, and I still miss it!

But I went more practical with it's replacement and got an E91 325i. It was built in August 2005, but being from the E9* Series it has the N52 engine.

2005 was the change-over year so you need to determine whether your mate is looking at a late E46 or an early E9*.

The E9* models with the N52 engine had more power (325i went up from 192 bhp to 218 bhp, or 330i from 231 bhp to 265 bhp) but if the newer model has a weak point it is the electric water pump that costs around £200 just for the part!

But IMHO it's a price worth paying, as an N52 engine is so much better than the M54 when you get it revving towards the 7,000 rpm red-line (I'm on my 2nd Z4 Coupe with the 3 litre N52).

Challo

12,137 posts

176 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Deep Thought said:
Challo said:
I had a 320 which is a 6 cylinder. Smooth, and relaxing to drive but does lack performance.

Look for a 325 or 330 if possible
I'm almost certain a 320i of the era the O/P is talking about is a four pot NA.

Older e36 coupe 320i's were a six pot.

Edited by Deep Thought on Saturday 23 February 18:43
I was thinking the OP talking about the E46 which was a 6 cyclinder

Deep Thought

38,394 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Challo said:
I was thinking the OP talking about the E46 which was a 6 cyclinder
.... actually you're right.

A 2005 coupe would still have been an E46 and thus a 2.2 6 cylinder apparently.

Apologies.