RE: Maserati Spyder: Spotted
RE: Maserati Spyder: Spotted
Sunday 24th February 2019

Maserati Spyder: Spotted

A drop-top Italian V8 GT is a surefire way to make the most of the winter sunshine



There are few better places to while away a sunny Sunday than behind the wheel of an Italian grand tourer. Top down and, ideally, with a high-revving V8 on vocals. Bliss. But what car to choose if you can't stretch to the budget of an Alfa Romeo 8C Spider or Ferrari California? The Maserati Spyder, of course.

The open-top version of the 4200 coupe is not particularly concerned with presenting a particularly vivid sporting image; it's more about the badge, the look and, yes, the sound of that Ferrari-built motor beating a path to your eardrums.


With 390hp available at 7,000rpm, it's obviously at its most brisk with a head of steam whipped up. although there's a not insignificant 333lb ft of torque available at 4,500rpm as well, so if you'd rather waft along, it'll happily oblige. Certainly the surroundings - gorgeously hand-crafted and swathed in soft leather - encourage the latter technique.

Not that the Spyder is entirely incapable of being driven quickly. With the gearbox - either a six-speed manual or a steering wheel paddle-shifter-controlled electrohydraulic six-speed 'Cambiocorsa' - located at the back axle, the car's weight distribution gave it sharp-ish, predicable handling.

Less predictable of course is how far you'll get without a significant problem cropping up. With the last Spyders built in 2007, even a late one is now 12 years old. If you're looking at one, the soft top will obviously require inspection - you won't want any moisture wreaking havoc on that cabin. Some owners report issues with the latches on the roof, others experience a rattly exhaust manifold because the inner layer (they're double skinned) can split and there are a number of minor electrical gremlins that can arise. It's Italian, after all. But the main ingredient, that eight-cylinder heart, is considered to be a strong one.


Just don't assume your used Italian convertible will offer the running costs of a similarly priced new car. With eight cylinders to feed, the claimed economy figure of 16.1mpg is probably optimistic. Then there's the question of tax, because the 4.2-litre puts out 430g/km of CO2, so you'd be charged £315 a year for access to Her Majesty's highways. Ouch.

If that doesn't put you off, here's a lovely one that's recently been serviced by Dick Lovett Maserati. With 65,000 miles on the clock it's lived a life, but it doesn't appear to have been very hard on its exposed surfaces. The paint, bodywork and wheels look to be in fine fettle, as does the leather-wrapped cabin and very clean engine bay. Several key bits of hardware have been recently renewed, including the hydraulic pump of the Cambiocorsa gearbox and suspension, plus there's a full service history to bolster buyer confidence. All for the price of a new Ford Focus. Dare you, sunseeker.


SPECIFICATIONS - MASERATI SPYDER
Engine:
4,244cc, V8
Transmission: 6-speed electrohydraulically-controlled manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 390@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 333@4,500rpm
MPG: 16.1
CO2: 430g/km
First registered: 2002
Recorded mileage: 65,000
Price new: £61,830
Yours for: £23,950

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Very nice.

retrosonic

26 posts

148 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Electric Hydraulic gearbox, ....what cold possibly go wrong .

POORCARDEALER

8,668 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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I liked mine, felt old in some respects, gearbox etc but had a charm about it....mine had only 18000 miles on it, at 13000 miles it had had a new gearbox and clutch and some other bits at a cost of £13K at Maserati (covered by warranty). I think they can be run sensibly these days barring a catastrophic failure, and they are rare car....sports exhaust a must IMO

anonymous-user

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84 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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F1 pump same as Alfa Selespeed I do believe so if plays up can be bought quite cheap. The engine on these seems to be bulletproof.

sidewinder500

1,874 posts

124 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Actually not THAT much, as long as you service it, treat it with some TLC, warm it up thoroughly and keep it away from salty roads.
The bad rep they received stems from a time when consecutive owners did not service it correctly if ever, drove like madmen and neglected the things in general.
Sure it is italian, so electrics can play up but this are minor distractions.
If you can service in your own, then you can get your fair share of parts-interchangeability for the CC, which is the commonest part to take care of.
The engine and the rest of the car is pretty reliable.
Even compared to your Porsche C2 S from similar vintage...
If you can live with a full 4-seater in compact dimensions (as a coupe of course), reasonable running costs when treated right, undeniably better looks than everything that came afterwards from that company, and that cherry of an engine...
Seems they still suffer from that bad reputation pricewise, wonder if they ever are worth anything...

Blib

48,261 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Loved my facelifted 4200 and my 06 QP too. I had them regularly serviced at a well known independent and did not stint on fettling.

However, the many niggles wore me down in the end. Niether car did weather. Both were defeated by heavy rain. And the 42's cambiocorsa clutch gave out on the Brent Cross flyover on Friday rush hour. I made the travel news that night.

Of the two cars, it's the QP that I miss the most. The 42 was far more fun to drive, but the QP had a regal quality that made each journey an occasion.


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Edited by Blib on Sunday 24th February 08:47


Edited by Blib on Sunday 24th February 08:47

Cambs_Stuart

3,539 posts

114 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Very nice. But if you are put off by the £315 road tax then it's probably not for you.

st4

1,359 posts

163 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Cambs_Stuart said:
Very nice. But if you are put off by the £315 road tax then it's probably not for you.
Nor would be if you worry about warning lights and random noises. I don't have the balls to own a thing like this, not without a warranty.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

235 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Blib said:
Loved my facelifted 4200 and my 06 QP too.
Aren't those basically a TR7 in drag?

kambites

71,599 posts

251 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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How difficult are these things to wrok on? I wouldn't touch an automatic one with a barge pole but a manual holds a certain appeal if they're relatively easy to fix at home when they does go wrong.

Blib

48,261 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Veeayt said:
Blib said:
Loved my facelifted 4200 and my 06 QP too.
Aren't those basically a TR7 in drag?
Old skool trolling!!!!

rofl

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V6Alfisti

3,314 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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I had a facelift 4200 for a while, still miss the engine, noise and interior. It is more GT than a sports car.

Generally not that cheap to keep on the road, but within expectations...more so with a good specialist.

Some things to take note of:

Some of the bigger things like discs/pads are the same as a BMW model (can't recall which), this helps with keeping costs down
Some parts are straight from Alfa e.g. Selespeed pump £200 instead of £1000 plus at Maserati, the interior light cluster is from a GTV e.t.c

However anything Maserati specific does cost rather a lot, e.g.

1) Doing a clutch change was about a £2.5k job even with a specialist as you have the clutch, bearings and then you have to set the alignment points which you can only do with a maserati box. Luckily the previous owner of mine, had just done it.
2) Small bits like a bit of tiny L shaped 6cm pipe from maserati can cost an arm/leg e.g that was a quote of £140 ish...part only.

The facelift version is desired more, as it came with a number of tweaks and the last of the line the Gran something takes this to another level.

Just buy a good one, with a recent clutch, also preferably a F1 pump if you plump for that model. The previous owner of my one had spent 4.5k on it in the 12 months before I bought it, then I had to chuck on a F1 pump/relay when it left me stranded.

I do remember resetting the car quite a bit, for some reason or other. It always felt like it was built when complex car electricals were being developed but weren't quite there....Maserati have always been behind the pack here imo.

It did have it's oddities as well, the handbrake was useless and with the later software updates Maserati pulled off the hill hold assist from the F1 cars.

Oh, I would still have another !




Edited by V6Alfisti on Sunday 24th February 11:52

Blib

48,261 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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I had all of those troubles and more besides.

But I too would buy a well sorted 4200 again.

johnnyBv8

2,482 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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I had a 4200 Spyder for a while - sounded great with Larini exhaust, but the F1 box was horrible - slow and clunky, and the interior wasnt as good quality as my previous 3200s (the 4200 has a lot more of that vinyl stuff pretending to be real leather on seat edges etc). I sold it to someone from Australia. Prices seem to have climbed - I sold mine for £16k, but at £24k for this one, I think there are definitely better cars for the money.


Edited by johnnyBv8 on Sunday 24th February 16:12

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

249 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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ok, own up, who else just went to PH Classifieds, selected Maser and filtered by lowest price first.

then wondered "how do i start this conversation with SWMBO ...... "

pSyCoSiS

4,331 posts

235 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Nice but that money seems a bit strong doesn't it?

mario64

134 posts

202 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Always liked the Spyder and imagine it sounds fantastic.

I've run a hardtop GranSport for a few years now and echo other comments that say they are pricey to run, but more manageable with specialists. Biggest cost for me has been a suspension rebuild - £6k from Giallo using pattern parts. HR Owen quoted me a much much higher figure than this.

If you stay on top of maintenance they take the miles very well. Mine's now at 67k and feels tighter and fresher than it did when I bought it at 30k.

unsprung

6,055 posts

154 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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V6Alfisti said:
I had a facelift 4200 for a while, still miss the engine, noise and interior. It is more GT than a sports car.

that interior does indeed look like a nice place to be

not just the sort of saddle tan, but also the various shapes / forms about


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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I run a manual one, fantastic cars.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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