Moving Sage Line 50 to the cloud
Discussion
Does anybody support Sage Line 50 / know much about it from an IT point of view (rather than accountant's point of view)?
As an IT support person I have a customer that uses Sage Line 50 in their office but they want to "cloud it up" so that some of them can work from home, do some of the inputting at another office etc.
I find the materials from Sage very confusing, and the minimum 30-40 minutes on hold waiting, every time I call their support doesn't help either!
So if anyone is able to confirm a few basics for me ...
Sage One is a completely separate product to Line 50, and is entirely cloud based, like Xero etc, but by all accounts is a bit st, is that correct?
Line50 has been renamed Line50 Cloud, but it's really still the same clunky Line50 product (where you frequently have to dive in and rename files etc when it goes wrong). Even though they've added Cloud onto the name, if you don't enable any of the cloud functionality, it works like it always has, with one main central installation somewhere and the data shared to the other PCs through an "Accounts" windows share.
When it comes to enabling the Cloud sync features, there seem to be people that talk about Sage Drive, and people that talk about it using OneDrive from Office365. What's the difference between using Sage Drive or O365 OneDrive?
Sage sales seem to want to sell us Office365 Premium for every Sage user (this customer does not have O365 already). Is that really necessary, or would I only need O365 for the users that want to work remotely from the main office? And do I need to buy it through Sage? (I'm very familiar with setting up O365 independent of Sage). I see on the Sage marketing materials they talk about integration of things like O365 contacts with Sage data, but my customer isn't interested in any of that, and as I say doesn't use O365 for their email.
It seems a bit dodgy to have to have Office365, and be forced to take a premium package where the subscription includes things like email and Office Desktop licences that we have covered in other ways, just to be able to use the OneDrive sync component. Which in my experience outside of Sage, isn't too bad these days, but I'm still not sure I'd rely on it for live-syncing accounting data.
I can't change the fact that they are using Sage, I just need to change the flavour of Sage that they're using ...
As an IT support person I have a customer that uses Sage Line 50 in their office but they want to "cloud it up" so that some of them can work from home, do some of the inputting at another office etc.
I find the materials from Sage very confusing, and the minimum 30-40 minutes on hold waiting, every time I call their support doesn't help either!
So if anyone is able to confirm a few basics for me ...
Sage One is a completely separate product to Line 50, and is entirely cloud based, like Xero etc, but by all accounts is a bit st, is that correct?
Line50 has been renamed Line50 Cloud, but it's really still the same clunky Line50 product (where you frequently have to dive in and rename files etc when it goes wrong). Even though they've added Cloud onto the name, if you don't enable any of the cloud functionality, it works like it always has, with one main central installation somewhere and the data shared to the other PCs through an "Accounts" windows share.
When it comes to enabling the Cloud sync features, there seem to be people that talk about Sage Drive, and people that talk about it using OneDrive from Office365. What's the difference between using Sage Drive or O365 OneDrive?
Sage sales seem to want to sell us Office365 Premium for every Sage user (this customer does not have O365 already). Is that really necessary, or would I only need O365 for the users that want to work remotely from the main office? And do I need to buy it through Sage? (I'm very familiar with setting up O365 independent of Sage). I see on the Sage marketing materials they talk about integration of things like O365 contacts with Sage data, but my customer isn't interested in any of that, and as I say doesn't use O365 for their email.
It seems a bit dodgy to have to have Office365, and be forced to take a premium package where the subscription includes things like email and Office Desktop licences that we have covered in other ways, just to be able to use the OneDrive sync component. Which in my experience outside of Sage, isn't too bad these days, but I'm still not sure I'd rely on it for live-syncing accounting data.
I can't change the fact that they are using Sage, I just need to change the flavour of Sage that they're using ...
The program is still installed locally and data still held locally.
There is a data service running on your server/host machine that when you enable Sage Drive moves a copy if the data to the cloud that can be downloaded locally to a laptop/machine off the network.
Changes made by any machine bounce via the cloud to update the other but ultimately the data is still held locally.
I can answer any question on it if you wish.
There is a data service running on your server/host machine that when you enable Sage Drive moves a copy if the data to the cloud that can be downloaded locally to a laptop/machine off the network.
Changes made by any machine bounce via the cloud to update the other but ultimately the data is still held locally.
I can answer any question on it if you wish.
This article covers a few of the higher level "cloud" questions: https://www.enterprisetimes.co.uk/2018/05/04/sage-...
I would say Sage Drive is hosted on AWS and the Microsoft affiliation is a B2B deal to generate interest for both companies - https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/sage-p...
I would say Sage Drive is hosted on AWS and the Microsoft affiliation is a B2B deal to generate interest for both companies - https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/sage-p...
Sage Drive is not One Drive and doesn't use one drive.
Unless you are using any of the MS integration you do not need to subscribe to 365 via Sage.
Basically if you do, you can raise invoices etc direct from an email in outlook and update the communication history on customer/supplier records etc but you do not need it if you either already have it or do not want it.
Unless you are using any of the MS integration you do not need to subscribe to 365 via Sage.
Basically if you do, you can raise invoices etc direct from an email in outlook and update the communication history on customer/supplier records etc but you do not need it if you either already have it or do not want it.
Thanks for the advice (I've unexpectedly been away over the weekend).
I'll see if I can find out more from Sage about using it with Sage Drive so we don't have to take out O365 subs without good reason.
At the moment the default position from Sage seems to be pushing the O365 version and not mentioning any other so will dig a little deeper.
Unfortunately this client wants to keep Sage, I can't make them change that, it's just that they want to be able to use it from multiple locations.
I'll see if I can find out more from Sage about using it with Sage Drive so we don't have to take out O365 subs without good reason.
At the moment the default position from Sage seems to be pushing the O365 version and not mentioning any other so will dig a little deeper.
Unfortunately this client wants to keep Sage, I can't make them change that, it's just that they want to be able to use it from multiple locations.
This should point you in the right direction Kev.
https://ask.sage.co.uk/scripts/ask.cfg/php.exe/end...
https://ask.sage.co.uk/scripts/ask.cfg/php.exe/end...
DaveH23 said:
This should point you in the right direction Kev.
https://ask.sage.co.uk/scripts/ask.cfg/php.exe/end...
As a side note, just because you get 0365 included you don't need to migrate or do anything with it, you can continue to use your existing licence. https://ask.sage.co.uk/scripts/ask.cfg/php.exe/end...
It's included should you wish to use it.
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