MOT fail ? Windscreen washer light....
MOT fail ? Windscreen washer light....
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semisane

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900 posts

111 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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.... lit on dash but reservoir full and jets working well.

Thoughts?

Old Merc

3,819 posts

196 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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I bet if you disconnect the sensor or what ever on the washer reservoir the light will go out.
If the washers are working and the blades are in good order it should pass.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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That was a fail? I could understand (at a push) if it was an advisory!

Earthdweller

19,409 posts

155 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Hasn’t it changed recently whereby any failure of a warning lamp is a fail ?

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https://www.motester.co.uk/mot-test-of-instrument-...

https://www.motester.co.uk/mot-test-of-windscreen/


Which seems to indicate it shouldn’t be a failure ?

Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 3rd March 12:53


Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 3rd March 12:56

4rephill

5,168 posts

207 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Faulty sensor.

As far as the MOT is concerned, all warning lights should illuminate when the ignition is switched on, and extinguish when the car starts up - Your washer light doesn't, hence the failure.

If you had to drive in crappy weather, when there could be loads of dirty spray coming off lorry's and such like, and you'd need to to use your washers often, unless you checked your washer fluid level before you set (how many people really do?), you'd have no idea that your washer fluid was low and needed topping up until you pulled for the wash/wipe, got nothing, and had to drive with restricted vision through the screen due to all the smeared dirt on the screen.

semisane

Original Poster:

900 posts

111 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
That was a fail? I could understand (at a push) if it was an advisory!
Sorry no not a fail yet - pre mot question


TTmonkey

20,911 posts

276 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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OP. I’m guessing you have a question about wether it will fail, not that it has already?

Some cars don’t have washer fluid level warning lights, so i don’t believe you can fail for having a defective light. Unless it’s changed recently, the tester tests for function of washers, which is why you can fail if it’s all working but the reseviour is empty.

If they test them and they work, it passes. If the light is on, it doesnt mean the reseviour is either empty or that they don’t work, so shouldn’t fail. Light on is an advisory that level is low.

Travelling with a low level of fluid is not a crime or offence despite what other posters might be inferring.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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I don’t see how it could be a fail as I’ve not found anything in the testing guide to say it’s tested.

People are getting very confused about the status of dashboard warning lights as part of the MoT - only certain lights are prescribed as fails.

If in any doubt, the place to check is the official MoT testing manual published by the government.

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...

TTmonkey

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276 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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charltjr said:
I don’t see how it could be a fail as I’ve not found anything in the testing guide to say it’s tested.

People are getting very confused about the status of dashboard warning lights as part of the MoT - only certain lights are prescribed as fails.

If in any doubt, the place to check is the official MoT testing manual published by the government.

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...
Pretty sure that only lights that come on at start up that should go off after a self check but subsequently don’t go off are failures.

Emissions, engine, brakes, abs etc. All light up but go off. If they don’t light up at start or if they don’t go off, that would be a fail.

semisane

Original Poster:

900 posts

111 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
That was a fail? I could understand (at a push) if it was an advisory!
Sorry no not a fail yet - pre mot question


markymarkthree

3,622 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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FAIL!!! do not drive said dangerous vehicle until fixed, go directly to jail and don't collect £200.

ApOrbital

10,587 posts

147 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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I have the same with my airbag light it stays on and i know it will be a fail.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

276 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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ApOrbital said:
I have the same with my airbag light it stays on and i know it will be a fail.
Another light that’s supposed to go off after the self check. Which the washer fluid level light is not supposed to....

Cold

16,707 posts

119 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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You can't drive it away from the MOT station and your insurance is invalid. yes

Bigends

6,158 posts

157 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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If the water level light doesnt illuminate in the first place is the tester likely to notice it hasnt lit?

semisane

Original Poster:

900 posts

111 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Bigends said:
If the water level light doesnt illuminate in the first place is the tester likely to notice it hasnt lit?
As per my original post, the light is lit and stays lit.

Bigends

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157 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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semisane said:
Bigends said:
If the water level light doesnt illuminate in the first place is the tester likely to notice it hasnt lit?
As per my original post, the light is lit and stays lit.
Sorry - missed that. Clean or replace the sensor - or whip the relevant fuse out


Edited by Bigends on Sunday 3rd March 18:46

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Ignore all the bellends, make sure bottle is full of fluid and disconnect sensor too turn light off, and order a new sensor tonight.

semisane

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111 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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TTmonkey said:
Another light that’s supposed to go off after the self check. Which the washer fluid level light is not supposed to....
Thanks TTm - can you expand

semisane

Original Poster:

900 posts

111 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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CP12 said:
Ignore all the bellends, make sure bottle is full of fluid and disconnect sensor too turn light off, and order a new sensor tonight.
Thanks. Unfortunately many modern cars are virtually inaccessible. All I can see / get to is the filler cap, the tube then disappears .

I will get it sorted at next service but mot due before.