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beanbag

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7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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The search function doesn't seem to work for me so apologies if this has been posted before.

I've just got to say how stupid some people are complaining about the new weather format on the BBC. It's leagues ahead of where it was before but it will take a little getting used to.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4554999.stm

Some people also complained about "the size of Scotland" because of the way it's depicted on a 3D map!!!??? What planet are some people on? Major slap for them!

You really get some annoying people stuck in a time warp who have no positive thoughts about technological change.

Anyhow, I think all they really need to do is change the map colour but overall, I think it's brilliant!

Yertis

19,710 posts

295 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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I still suspect that the weather forecasts are "massaged" by the BBC on behalf of the government, to reduce traffic congestion and/or help the tourist industry. Just look at how many times the weekend weather looks promising, they forecast rain so we scrap all our travel plans, then it turns out to be sunny anyway. Or they'll forecast sun and it turns out rainy, so we have to spend our weekend poking around damp gift shops in Swanage

I only trust a piece of seaweed.

dirkgently

2,160 posts

260 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Yertis said:

I only trust a piece of seaweed.


Much more accurate imo

nubbin

6,809 posts

307 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Yertis said:
I still suspect that the weather forecasts are "massaged" by the BBC on behalf of the government, to reduce traffic congestion and/or help the tourist industry. Just look at how many times the weekend weather looks promising, they forecast rain so we scrap all our travel plans, then it turns out to be sunny anyway. Or they'll forecast sun and it turns out rainy, so we have to spend our weekend poking around damp gift shops in Swanage

I only trust a piece of seaweed.


Bloody hell mate, that takes paranoia and nanny state interference to a new level!!

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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some plonker said:
"What on earth is the point of doing pseudo 3D maps? If the weather was 3D I'd understand it but I'm not a pilot."


Do you only get two dimensional rain then? I'd complain if I were you, mate!

miniman

30,020 posts

291 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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To my mind, the old maps were much clearer. I don't understand why we need animated rainclouds to indicate rain. The old magnets stuck on a board worked just as well. One of the key complaints is the the whole country is now grey / brown, and rainy areas are now brighter than the sunny areas

No doubt we will all get used to it, but it does seem a waste of effort and money. And IMHO it does add a touch of chav.

Racylady

931 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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I never take any notice of weather forecasts anyway.

So, go on, someone explain why seaweed is such a good forecaster then?

Jinx

12,019 posts

289 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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nubbin said:

Bloody hell mate, that takes paranoia and nanny state interference to a new level!!


Unfortunately he has a point - though I believe it is more incompetence than design....

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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It is much better the way it is now. Map colour makes me though.

Many people just don't like change, even when for the better.


Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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So long as the Beeb continue to employ a high proportion of classy totty their weather broadcasts will be acceptable viewimg IMO.

einion yrth

19,575 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Given isobars and wind speed/direction indicators I could make a reasonable stab at forecasting the weather myself from basic meteorological concepts, now I cannot. The system is an ugly and confusing hotch-potch which gives less information than the previous system, and I don't think it's unreasonable to complain about the gross perspective foreshortening of Scotland either, how would the London centrics like it if the viewpoint were from somewhere north of Shetland?

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Its just change for change's sake.

Couldn't really be bothered to pick a favorite format, but whatever you're used to is going to seem much clearer hence all the moaning about the new style.

BBC said:

One major change for television is that the forecasts will use 3D maps, which show detailed relief and topography of the land. Forecasters can use 3D maps to take you on a tour of the weather, around the UK or even the world.

Another addition to the new graphics is the development of virtual falling rain. This helps to show the intensity of rainfall over the 3-dimensional map, making for a more realistic-looking forecast. When presenting a forecast therefore, BBC Broadcast Meteorologists can move quickly and effectively from one weather story to another, giving the audience the full global weather picture.

So, basically, what they're saying is: "we have all this licence fee money to spend, so we came up with a nice expensive project to blow it on"

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Einon yrth - spot on. We studied the interpretation of synoptic weather charts in school so that nowadays I have a good chance of interpreting what is going on by looking at a proper weather chart - not this nonsense Bugs Bunny presentation.

On the other hand, I find the BBC Internet Weather Site very good, particularly their animation of the weather radar imagery over "x" hours. It really gives you a good idea as to where the rainfall actually is and where it is going to be over the next few hours. Ideal if I am deciding whether I am going to drive my Seven or my Mazda.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 18th May 09:54

beanbag

Original Poster:

7,346 posts

270 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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miniman said:
And IMHO it does add a touch of chav.


eh? What's your definition of chav?!!?!?

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Racylady said:
So, go on, someone explain why seaweed is such a good forecaster then?

[Del Boy]

Well it's green, innit. Henviron-mentally friendly an' all that....

[/Del Boy]

billb

3,198 posts

294 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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mud brown britain instead of our green beauty?! its crap and no doubt a total waste of money - havent been so upset by change since i upgraded from outlook 2000 to 2003 last week

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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Try www.metcheck.com

Very, very accurate.

einion yrth

19,575 posts

273 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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lazyitus said:
Try www.metcheck.com

Very, very accurate.

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beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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lazyitus said:
Try www.metcheck.com

Very, very accurate.
Blimey that looks good - I think I'll replace weather.com on my toolbar right now....

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Wednesday 18th May 2005
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beano500 said:

Blimey that looks good - I think I'll replace weather.com on my toolbar right now....


It is ACE.

Although no forecast can be 100% correct all of the time, this is mega accurate.