No ID - no vote

[anonymous-user]

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[Johnnytheboy]

Can't see a problem, I'm required to show I'D for work stuff all the time.

It's hardly onerous is it?

[Graunching_dave]

anonymous said:

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Who got prosecuted and for what?

[Evanivitch]

It's a completely unnecessary obstacle to democracy.

There is a cost required to having a driving licence card or passport (perhaps insignificant to many, but if you lose it at the wrong time it becomes an obstacle to you voting), and there's a huge assumption with the proof of two bills in your name and address (I can think of several scenarios where partners, offspring or those in shared accomodation wouldn't have 2 bills).

[98elise]

I think it's bizarre that we don't have to show ID to vote. Something important as a decision about the countries economic and political future should have something more robust in place than pointing at a list and saying "that's me"

[PurpleMoonlight]

98elise said:

I think it's bizarre that we don't have to show ID to vote. Something important as a decision about the countries economic and political future should have something more robust in place than pointing at a list and saying "that's me"

Don't you have to take your polling card?

[MikeyC]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Don't you have to take your polling card?

IIRC, you don't

I don't have an issue with Id being required, but how does postal voting working work ?

Household bills are usually for a particular person so they can only be used by that/one person

[anonymous-user]

I suppose the simple question is what happens when you don’t have a driving license or passport?

[PositronicRay]

PurpleMoonlight said:

98elise said:

I think it's bizarre that we don't have to show ID to vote. Something important as a decision about the countries economic and political future should have something more robust in place than pointing at a list and saying "that's me"

Don't you have to take your polling card?

No you just show up and they tick you off the list.

I can see how the id thing will get in the way, some just won't bother. When I sold car finance I'd was quite rightly required. Despite being clear on the requirements many either, forgot, couldn't find it, address incorrect, or just brought the wrong documents.

[FunkyNige]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Don't you have to take your polling card?

No, you just tell them your name and address and they give you a card with a serial number on it. If someone has already voted and said they're you they can fish the old card out of the box and it's your vote that counts.
Seems a perfectly fine system where you only need ID in the event of 2 people claiming to be the same person.

[ian in lancs]

Johnnytheboy said:

Can't see a problem, I'm required to show I'D for work stuff all the time.

It's hardly onerous is it?

ditto

[Teddy Lop]

anonymous said:

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would an allowance of pre registering for nonID voting, on the basis most would just use the ID option which would give you a smaller pool to randomly check or whatever, not compromise the system too much?

Seems insane when you can't do anything at all with proving your ID due to modern levels of identity fraud that voting is still so open to abuse.

[Gameface]

Evanivitch said:

It's a completely unnecessary obstacle to democracy.

Voting fraud should be part of democracy should it? That's gone well in America...

Evanivitch said:

There is a cost required to having a driving licence card or passport (perhaps insignificant to many, but if you lose it at the wrong time it becomes an obstacle to you voting), and there's a huge assumption with the proof of two bills in your name and address (I can think of several scenarios where partners, offspring or those in shared accomodation wouldn't have 2 bills).

Tough st.

Edited by Gameface on Thursday 7th March 07:14

[Evanivitch]

Gameface said:

Voting fraud should be part of democracy should it? That's gone well in America...

Remind me again how that was done? Was it 10,000 of people complicit in walking into polling stations, correctly providing the right name and address on the register (not difficult information to gain, but requires prior action and assumption the person has not already voted).

You don't just walk upto a list and pick a name at random.

Your parting comment (and your inability to format) says it all really.

[Ziplobb]

I have to go in to my accountant today with mine and Missus Zippy s passprts as he needs to formally I’d me despite dealing with us for 15 years. It’s not an issue and if it’s needed for him to sort our simple company accounts and tax affairs then everyone partipating in deciding who runs this country in the future should be required to do the same.

[soad]

Some may only have that old paper driving licence (remember those?).

Some may be too tight to pay for a passport (generally old people).

I don't vote (most politicians are self serving useless s), so couldn't care less.

[Gameface]

Evanivitch said:

Gameface said:

Voting fraud should be part of democracy should it? That's gone well in America...

Remind me again how that was done? Was it 10,000 of people complicit in walking into polling stations, correctly providing the right name and address on the register (not difficult information to gain, but requires prior action and assumption the person has not already voted).

You don't just walk upto a list and pick a name at random.

Your parting comment (and your inability to format) says it all really.

Formatting is rarely mentioned by someone winning a debate...

[Countdown]

anonymous said:

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There is the potential for dodginess with Postal Voting as well.

In relation to the OP - I cant believe how ID isn’t required for voting. It’s crackers.

[PositronicRay]

It's a good argument for a national I'd card system, to include ni and NHS.

[Cold]

There wouldn't be such a furore if the proposed ID cards were implemented a few years ago.