What would you value this at? Resto-mod Scrambler
What would you value this at? Resto-mod Scrambler
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anonymous-user

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85 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I wouldn’t normally ask for valuations, but I simply cannot get a feel for this bike.

I am going to look at a resto-mod type Scrambler bike that’s for sale fairly local to me, and the seller is asking £3200 o.n.o for it.

He has built it himself and just finished it, wants to move onto the next project.

The engine is Suzuki 400.

It’s been totally rebuilt, carbs cleaned, jetted, set up, all that kind of thing. Starts and runs perfect.

All new shocks, seat, paintwork, tyres, etc

But what is it worth?

I asked a couple of other bikers I know who said I would be mental to pay ‘more than a grand’ for it, and at £3k would be stuck with it forever.

I think it’s really cool, but it’ll be no doubt st to ride, and I cannot put a value on it.

Thoughts?

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Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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It looks like it's made from a TS400, which are at least a grand even in ropey condition these days.

I think £3k is pretty strong money, but if the finish is as good as the pics look then I think it'd be reasonable.

Wacky Racer

41,401 posts

278 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Not my thing, but £1500 tops.

I used to own a new SP370 and SP400 in the 1980's. They are fetching similar now. (Pigs to start, no electric start).

mckeann

2,996 posts

260 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Pay 3K, then you’ll never be able to sell it but at least your kids will have a bike to ride when they grow up

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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mckeann said:
Pay 3K, then you’ll never be able to sell it but at least your kids will have a bike to ride when they grow up
Yes, yes.... very good...

SAS Tom

3,755 posts

205 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I think the easiest way to work out if it’s worth that money is what could you get for similar money.

IMO you’d get much better bikes for similar money.

gregs656

12,417 posts

212 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Krikkit said:
It looks like it's made from a TS400, which are at least a grand even in ropey condition these days.
The engine casings don't look right, and isn't the TS a 2 stroke? That looks like a 4 stroke exhaust.

I think has been done cheaply and is over priced.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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SAS Tom said:
I think the easiest way to work out if it’s worth that money is what could you get for similar money.

IMO you’d get much better bikes for similar money.
Whilst that is true, when you get into classics and retro etc it doesn’t work.

You could pay £30k for a brand new decent spec BMW 3 Series, which would be relatively fast, handle great, and do everything very well.

Or you could spend £30k buying a 1950’s MG TF, which would be absolutely fking awful in every single respect.

SteelerSE

2,028 posts

187 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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And no lights?

It looks like a Mutt which you can buy brand new for that money (albeit a 125).

The bottom line is if you really love it. If you do then pay the money and enjoy but I would be looking at £1500-2000 at a guess. Over 3k sounds like a lorra lorra cash.

MotorsportTom

3,343 posts

192 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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From my POV it's not worth the sum of it's parts.

With most bikes you make more by breaking them, that looks to have been built with cheaper components (look at the levers and rear shocks for example). Meaning breaking it you would earn less than the £3k price tag.

I wouldn't go near it but for you if you believe it's worth the money and you can't buy anything similar that floats your boat then only you can decide.

xstian

2,246 posts

177 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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No lights or anything electrical makes me wonder about competence. While having no air box may look cool, it will probably affect the engine's performance and tractability. Also as said above cheap shocks and levers don't inspire much confidence. That being said if you like its worth what you are willing to pay.

Make sure you take someone with you to view.

In fact looking again, there is no ignition key or speedo I'm not sure I would even class that as finished. I take it, it has an MOT? Probably worth speaking to an insurance company also.

Edited by xstian on Friday 8th March 16:28

Wacky Racer

41,401 posts

278 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
SAS Tom said:
I think the easiest way to work out if it’s worth that money is what could you get for similar money.

IMO you’d get much better bikes for similar money.
Whilst that is true, when you get into classics and retro etc it doesn’t work.

You could pay £30k for a brand new decent spec BMW 3 Series, which would be relatively fast, handle great, and do everything very well.

Or you could spend £30k buying a 1950’s MG TF, which would be absolutely fking awful in every single respect.
Yes, but in twenty years the Beemer will be worth £500, the TF £35,000. smile


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I shall update you as I’m going to see it tonight.

I tend to agree with what has been said in that it’s not worth £3k and is probably a £1500 bike that should be bought just for a bit of fun and not any form of serious motorcycling.

I just thought it looked pretty cool really, that’s the top and bottom of it. But being ‘cool’ doesn’t necessarily make something more valuable.

Krikkit

27,939 posts

212 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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gregs656 said:
Krikkit said:
It looks like it's made from a TS400, which are at least a grand even in ropey condition these days.
The engine casings don't look right, and isn't the TS a 2 stroke? That looks like a 4 stroke exhaust.
Herp derp, yes you're right. Dunno what it is then!

Wacky Racer

41,401 posts

278 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
I tend to agree with what has been said in that it’s not worth £3k and is probably a £1500 bike that should be bought just for a bit of fun and not any form of serious motorcycling.
This. Definitely don't pay anywhere near £3000, that's a lot of money.

dibblecorse

7,654 posts

223 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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dibblecorse said:
Thanks for that thread!

Joking aside, a few guys my age group (nearly 40 ish) who I’m friends with have expressed quite an interest in getting a bike licence for the first time in their lives, purely because of rise of ‘cool’ hipster style motorbikes.

Custom made old cafe racers, flat trackers, scramblers etc.

I was surprised myself the other day when I discovered entire businesses dedicated to supplying nothing but thousands of items of vintage/retro style bike clothing and helmets etc:

www.urbanrider.co.uk

dibblecorse

7,654 posts

223 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Lord Marylebone said:
dibblecorse said:
Thanks for that thread!

Joking aside, a few guys my age group (nearly 40 ish) who I’m friends with have expressed quite an interest in getting a bike licence for the first time in their lives, purely because of rise of ‘cool’ hipster style motorbikes.

Custom made old cafe racers, flat trackers, scramblers etc.

I was surprised myself the other day when I discovered entire businesses dedicated to supplying nothing but thousands of items of vintage/retro style bike clothing and helmets etc:

www.urbanrider.co.uk
Mate, it was very much tongue in cheek, and I applaud anyone that wants to get on two wheels ....

Soon business lunches will be at https://thebikeshed.cc/the-restaurant/

Jazoli

9,692 posts

281 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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I really hope you don't pay £3k for that, for one thing there's hardly anything to it, the levers and shocks are cheap crap, as mentioned it should really have an airbox, the exhaust looks like an afterthought and I bet it cost no more than £500 to throw it together, if you do however I have some magic beans for sale.

bimsb6

8,800 posts

252 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Krikkit said:
gregs656 said:
Krikkit said:
It looks like it's made from a TS400, which are at least a grand even in ropey condition these days.
The engine casings don't look right, and isn't the TS a 2 stroke? That looks like a 4 stroke exhaust.
Herp derp, yes you're right. Dunno what it is then!
Its either an sp400 ,dr400 or a gn400, not the best engine suzuki ever made . Looks like a lot of money for what it is .