Mandatory govt car inspection testing - lowered car
Mandatory govt car inspection testing - lowered car
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cornflakes2

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230 posts

93 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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I went in this morning to get my car tested for emissions and such, but my front end is lowered and there wasn't enough
ground clearance (without hitting or potentially damaging my front bumper) when the car was placed on the chassis test machine (those giant
rollers in the ground where the car's tires have to align between them, thus it gets lowered). Since my car is already lowered, if placed on those rollers, they said it might damage my front bumper but nobody knows for sure. Just to be safe, I said not to do the test then.

Now I'm wondering what alternatives I have to raising my front end just an inch or so. Instead of having to get stock suspension or changing out my springs to stock springs, I was wondering if using coil spacers (those rubbers ones that fit between the coils) could work for this situation? I'll only need them on for 5-10 minutes and then I'd take them off again after the testing.

I read that those could give about a 1 inch increase in ride height so that might be enough to give me enough ground clearance.

Would this work?

Sensibleboy

1,164 posts

141 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Are you in the USA?

Bill

55,849 posts

271 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Sensibleboy said:
Are you in the USA?
That would make more sense. Not an MOT then.

cornflakes2

Original Poster:

230 posts

93 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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No not in the USA. Regardless, I just need to raise my front end by about an inch. My car is ready to go for testing except that some of these platforms have a barrier the car has to clear and drive over else it can't get onto the testing platform. The minimum height clearance is 12 cm. My car's front end is about 10.5 cm - 11 cm. The sides and back are over 12 cm no problem. When I went in the morning, it was literally touching under the front bumper so couldn't do the test.

haggishunter

1,315 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Ask them to test it the same way they brake test 4wd vehicles?

iguana

7,197 posts

276 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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They don't need to use rollers can use the Tapley & test & most rollers have flip over covers so can get on ramp.

paintman

7,818 posts

206 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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Decelerometer - often a Tapley meter.
"1.2 Service brake performance and efficiency
1.2.1 Performance
You must ensure that the vehicle is in a safe condition for the test to be carried out.
If the primary brake tester isn’t suitable for the vehicle’s drive configuration, transmission type or braking system, a full or partial decelerometer
test may be appropriate. You should take into account any additional information from the vehicle manufacturer."

and

"Using a decelerometer
1. If the vehicle or system can’t be tested on a roller brake tester, set up the decelerometer in the vehicle in accordance with the equipment manufacturer’s instructions
2. Drive the vehicle on a level road at a steady speed of approximately 20mph (32kph) and progressively apply the service brake to maximum.
Note whether the vehicle or steering pulls severely one way and the brake efficiency recorded."
www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/c...

bimsb6

8,435 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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cornflakes2 said:
No not in the USA. Regardless, I just need to raise my front end by about an inch. My car is ready to go for testing except that some of these platforms have a barrier the car has to clear and drive over else it can't get onto the testing platform. The minimum height clearance is 12 cm. My car's front end is about 10.5 cm - 11 cm. The sides and back are over 12 cm no problem. When I went in the morning, it was literally touching under the front bumper so couldn't do the test.
Why do you have tires then ? Only american cars have tires .

cornflakes2

Original Poster:

230 posts

93 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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so i think the basic issue is here the minimum allowable ground clearance is 12 cm.

Since my car is right at 12 and in some areas near the front is as low as 10-11 cm, I need to raise it up a bit.

I'm just asking if anyone has ever used coil spacers to stuff them in your coils as a quick and easy remedy for this problem?

I don't want to have to replace my lowering springs with stock springs or even just change them out for the test. I think sliding in those
rubber coil spacers is simpler and easier.

Anyone ever use those just to get some more ground clearance? I've never tried it before but theoretically and from what i've read
and seen in videos, they do raise the car about 1 inch so I'm thinking that makes sense.

Sensibleboy

1,164 posts

141 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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As you'll have the same problem every year is there any way that a block could be machined to fit in between top mount and car body?

GreenV8S

30,902 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th March 2019
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cornflakes2 said:
some of these platforms have a barrier the car has to clear and drive over else it can't get onto the testing platform. The minimum height clearance is 12 cm. My car's front end is about 10.5 cm - 11 cm.
Is ground clearance part of the test, or is this just a practical obstacle? For the latter, can you just use a piece of wood as a small ramp to get you up the first inch?

iguana

7,197 posts

276 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Is this not the Uk then?

My track car has 4.5 cm front, needs the Tapley for MOT but other than that no probs.


stevieturbo

17,788 posts

263 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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haggishunter said:
Ask them to test it the same way they brake test 4wd vehicles?
Here in Northern Ireland they do proper roller brake tests on all cars. None of that tapley nonsense.

Given the coil spring spacers are cheap...and you dont want to fit new springs, just buy them and try.

They will make a difference, and it is only a small difference you are after.

cornflakes2

Original Poster:

230 posts

93 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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GreenV8S said:
Is ground clearance part of the test, or is this just a practical obstacle? For the latter, can you just use a piece of wood as a small ramp to get you up the first inch?
Yes, ground clearance is part of the test....can't be lower than 12 cm. Mine is about 1-2 cm off. They won't allow me to use a wooden ramp or anything to alter the test since it's all on video camera. It's really stupid because the car drives fine, it's safe, their ramps are just weird...it has a massive dip onto the rollers and that's what gets my car in trouble.....if the rollers were just flat like doing a dyno or something, there would be no issues.

Do you think I could just shape a wooden block between my coil springs and fit it in there to see if I get a 1 inch lift? I just need it for the test....then I'll take it off right away.

cornflakes2

Original Poster:

230 posts

93 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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stevieturbo said:
Here in Northern Ireland they do proper roller brake tests on all cars. None of that tapley nonsense.

Given the coil spring spacers are cheap...and you dont want to fit new springs, just buy them and try.

They will make a difference, and it is only a small difference you are after.
Agreed. The only problem is they don't coil spacers where I'm at LOL. UGH! I have to import it from USA.
It takes a long time since most sellers don't ship directly to me and I have to use a re-shipper. Whole process could take about 2-3 weeks.
I believe once I am passed my due date for the test, each day costs me $15 up to $300 max.


geeks

10,506 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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Why not just remove the bumper for the test and refit.

stevieturbo

17,788 posts

263 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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Coil spring spacers are readily available all over ebay, very cheap, and accessible anywhere in the world I'd assume.

Cant see any reason why USA would be the only source...when quite clearly they are not.

You must be in one hell of a remote location if that easy purchase takes 2-3 weeks.

RichB

54,182 posts

300 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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What car is this? What country are you in? Just curious...
my Griff less than 10cm high at the spoiler under the nose.

E-bmw

11,126 posts

168 months

Wednesday 13th March 2019
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If it were me, by now I would have used longer top-mount bolts & made some spacers to lift each leg by 20mm, job done, take an hour or 2 tops.

cornflakes2

Original Poster:

230 posts

93 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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I'm in South Korea. It's PITA to get anything here. You'd think this country would have all the equipment and parts but the problem is the society is very regulated, stringent, and anal. Somebody probably has these but I can't find it for the life of me. I've checked on all websites, tuning shops, and people don't even know what the heck they are. They said all they do is reinstall the stock suspension and then after the test, put the aftermarket ones back on. That's korea for you. They don't know about simple and easy ways to do things. Nothing in this country makes any logical sense.

A year ago I had a problem with removing a wheel lock on my wheels. I didn't have the key for it since I bought the car used and the key didn't come with it. Again, I went to several shops, tuning places, nobody had a clue what the heck my wheel lock was. I had to buy the key off ebay in the US and have it shipped over here and I finally got them removed.

Anyways, I'm still waiting for my parts to arrive so I can try it out. In the meantime, I'm thinking about just buying some 2 dollar rubber hammers and cutting off the heads to shape them into rubber coil spacers and fit them in between the coils HAHA. I might try that and let you know if it worked!