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Bob_Defly

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5,939 posts

262 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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If you could have a holy grail bike or two, what would they be? One reasonably (cough) priced, and one money no object? (post pics)

Mine would be:

Ducati 998R



And the Lotus C-01 in black & gold


underwhelmist

2,052 posts

165 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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RC30 and, go on then I’ll have the Ducati if you’re offering.

That Lotus abomination would come a very long way down the list!

spoodler

2,307 posts

186 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Probably only the one "Holy Grail"... OCR1000 (but I still fancy a Jota, a Commando, a twin port pre war job...)

NITO

1,337 posts

237 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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So many, currently,

Sensible;



Bonkers;


Others not present, any of the proper special F4's (Tamburini, CC, F4 Claudio), Bimota SB2, Benelli Tornado LE, Aprilia RS250, Norton V4SS, MV Agusta 500cc triple race bike, Streethawk. My previous holy grail was a ZXR750R but I now have one so its not on this list wink

Edited by NITO on Monday 11th March 13:58

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Real tough choice!

I guess what qualifies as "reasonably" priced could be debated indefinitely, but the RC45 has always been a grail bike of mine. I'm no particular fan of Honda, and I know as a race bike it didn't meet it's objective of worldwide domination, but as a 90s bike fan it looks so right.



For my ultimate "money no object" toy there's only one choice, the Desmosedici RR in full Marlboro warpaint. Dynamically flawed and not particularly quick either by modern standards, but just look at it! The RCV213V comes a close second, but doesn't look as good to me.


Bob_Defly

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5,939 posts

262 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Ooh that Marlboro livery is v nice!!

NITO what type of F4 is that, a special edition?

Dakkon

7,833 posts

284 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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underwhelmist said:
RC30 and, go on then I’ll have the Ducati if you’re offering.

That Lotus abomination would come a very long way down the list!
My mate has three RC30's, two are pristine and are in his lounge, because the garage is too cold scratchchinbow- obviously and he has a 'tatty' one which he rides all the time.

Bob_Defly

Original Poster:

5,939 posts

262 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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underwhelmist said:
RC30 and, go on then I’ll have the Ducati if you’re offering.

That Lotus abomination would come a very long way down the list!
I agree, it's probably sh!te to ride, I just want to look at it in the lounge.

toasty

8,415 posts

251 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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It'd have to be two-stroke for the weight, noise and smell of Castrol R.

This'd do.


NITO

1,337 posts

237 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Bob_Defly said:
NITO what type of F4 is that, a special edition?
Hi Bob,

That is the Veltro Strada. It was made in two variants, the Pista (no lights - track only) and the Strada (fully road legal). They are the lightest of all the F4's and one of only 3 models to employ the MV TSS (Torque shift system) adjustable throttle body inlets. All carbon bodywork etc. It also differs from all the others as it was hand made under the direct supervision of Massimo Tamburino at the San Marino CRC factory where all the SBK bikes were made and not in Varese.

There were purportedly 23 Pista and 99 Strada models made, however legend has it that many less were made making this among the rarest. Although number 99 exists, buyers could choose their number. These were built to honour the Italian air force Gruppo 23 (23rd squadron) of the 5th Stormo (5th wing). The livery is the 23rd Hunter Squadrons mascot, one of Dante's 'Veltri' from his Inferno book and the slogan reads ' Like Greyhounds released from their chains'. For me it conjures up Italian pride beautifully, motorbikes, their air force and literature masterpieces. There's a lot more to it but it's a very unknown model and as such drifts coolly below radar, like a stealthy fighter jet it emulates!

It was also the inspiration for the 90th Anniversary livery of the Gruppo 23 squadron call sign 'Veltro 1' btw.



It's slightly higher specced than the Tamburini by virtue of its low weight, featuring magnesium, titanium, ergal and carbon parts, it doesn't have the Claudio Castiglioni higher capacity engine, but according to the literature it uses the Tamburini TSS but this time mated to a full race motor. They came with a Ti race system and eprom which further upped power to 185bhp and features a slipper clutch type affair to prevent potential wheel lock. Dry weight of the Strada is listed as 169kg (dry) giving it over 1bhp/kg and 191mph top end.

The Pista version sheds a further 10kg off the weight to an incredible 159kg (dry) but is not road legal and has no lights etc. That model further has a magnesium swingarm, bottom yoke and carbon tank, as well as quickshifter, race dashboard and race tyres producing the same power as the Strada.





Edited by NITO on Monday 11th March 16:34

Biker's Nemesis

41,461 posts

239 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Its been a couple of years since this was done so here we go.




Bob_Defly

Original Poster:

5,939 posts

262 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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[quote=Biker's Nemesis]Its been a couple of years since this was done so here we go.



Love that R7!

scoobygaz1

218 posts

176 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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I had an RC30 back in 1990 I had to sell due to the recession, The only bike I really miss, keep looking but they out of my price range now!

anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Sensible choice.....

RD500LC

Money no object choice.......
Racefit Katana

Don Roque

18,293 posts

190 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Even just a VFR1200F would do me as the reasonably priced bike:



For a dream bike, I'd be happy with another Honda...


neutral 3

8,666 posts

201 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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Finding and buying back my First ( of 5 ) 98 R1s, is probably top of my Grail list.
R741YWL Where Are You Now ??
Sold it in late 2004, to two guys from Camden Town, who it seems re painted it Yellow, unfortunately....

Followed by my last of 4 Z1000R Lawson Replicas and then my RD500LC.

neutral 3

8,666 posts

201 months

Monday 11th March 2019
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B191 RLK Where Are You Now ??
Known to be in the North of England.

srob

12,556 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Realistic; Ducati 748R



No idea why but I've always wanted a 748, more so than a 916, 996 etc.

Unrealistic; Montgomery 8v Anzani v-twin. There's only this one existing as far as I know, so options to buy are limited hehe


spoodler

2,307 posts

186 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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I'd never heard of a Montgomery, but that is wonderful.

Wildfire

9,951 posts

283 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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For me, the realistic dream bike was an MV Agusta F3. I think I posted about it in another dream bike thread back in 2012.

Achieved it in 2013 and still going.

But the unobtainable, it has to be the Desmocedici RR. As said before, a bit dynamically challenged and slow these days, but....