If I were in a plummeting lift
If I were in a plummeting lift
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Thankyou4calling

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10,995 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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And I jumped at just the right time before it hit the bottom of the shaft would I be OK?

RedWhiteMonkey

9,135 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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No, simple physics. You wouldn’t be able to jump.

PositronicRay

29,010 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Thankyou4calling said:
And I jumped at just the right time before it hit the bottom of the shaft would I be OK?
If you jumped high enough you'd hit your head.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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https://youtu.be/70HSc6XLyzw

This made me laugh unreasonably.

Tim330

1,336 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Not unless you could jump upwards with enough force to make your velocity wrt to the ground 0 or close to 0. Perhaps if the lift was only falling from the 1st floor this would reduce injury but I suspect timing it right would be impossible.

Silverbullet767

11,301 posts

236 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Lift falling at 60 mph, you jump upwards just before impact at 4mph, 56mph human pancake appears on lift floor.

Gary29

5,234 posts

129 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Of course! Why not try it and find out just to be sure?

Thankyou4calling

Original Poster:

10,995 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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IM 6ft 6 so I’d need to duck

OldGermanHeaps

5,151 posts

208 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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the lift would probably be plummeting up, not down.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Serious question or watching too many cartoons.

You're plummeting down under the force of gravity for say 20 seconds.

Simple physics says velocity is acceln.*time. Say gravity is 10m/s2 then after 20 seconds you'll be travelling at 200m/s

Then you jump up for half a second (that's hard try it)

Assuming you could then to counteract your speed, you'd have to accelerate at 400m/s/s not taking into account gravity pulling you the other way.

If you can do that please cone and see me as I have some shiny stuff I can sell you


(To the mathematicians and physicists out there - yes I know, but it's close enough)

Eric Mc

125,681 posts

295 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Thankyou4calling said:
And I jumped at just the right time before it hit the bottom of the shaft would I be OK?
No.

easytiger123

2,711 posts

239 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Thankyou4calling said:
And I jumped at just the right time before it hit the bottom of the shaft would I be OK?
There’s a good documentary called ‘Speed’ where something similar happened near the start of the film and they were all fine, so I’d say yes. It also showed how you can keep driving a bus above 50mph in traffic.

Wilmslowboy

4,766 posts

236 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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The worlds best jumpers can jump at about 4 mph (a meter or two a second) think about how long you are in the air and distance jumped (vertically)

The lift will fall (if from a taller enough height) at 122 mph, so if you timed your jump perfectly, you might hit the ground at 118 mph instead of 122 mph biggrin

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

258 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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You'd be fine.

Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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No.

Next.

ETA, Unless the lift was on the 1st or Second floor at which point broken bones etc are the most likely outcome. But go above 4th floor and pancake day is for you..

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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No, and I think Mythbusters tested it and proved it wasn't possible. The ceiling of the lift would still be coming down towards you as well don't forget.

What they did also show was that in some very specific circumstances, the designs of old lift shafts were such that the amount of air being compressed under the lift was forced into the shaft so hard that it had a cushioning type effect on the lift car which did save someone - think that was the basis of the myth they tested at the same time.

bristolbaron

5,381 posts

242 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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This is exactly why I’ve stopped using lifts and instead choose to jump out of windows landing in skips. Far safer, always fine in the films.

Mastiff

2,515 posts

271 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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I seem to remember Bugs Bunny managing it.....

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

153 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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in theory it can't drop because the electro brakes have to have power to keep them working. without power, they operate- lift won't fall.

I'm not an lift engineer.

In an old office of ours, we had a very old lift. it keep failing !

I was in it once when it did start to drop obviously out of control (not far though) and then starting bouncing up/down mid floor.

It was terrifying ! I jammed my fingers between the doors, got them to open enough and jumped out/climbed out at a maybe 4' height. If yr scared you have a surprising amount of strength !

underwhelmist

2,050 posts

164 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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If the lift was in free fall, then you’d be in free fall as well wouldn’t you? So you’d be floating about effectively weightless within the lift car, you wouldn’t be able to jump.