Talk to me regarding the 570

Talk to me regarding the 570

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Buster73

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5,077 posts

154 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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S or GT ?

Genuinely interested in the 570 but know absolutely nothing about them from experience.

Can anyone share experiences with either model and reasons for preferences.

Ta in advance.

markiii

3,645 posts

195 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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I'd go GT unless you want a spyyder

ripley500

388 posts

212 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Any 570 or 540 represents great value at the moment in my opinion.

GT is geared more for touring, having extra rear luggage space through the ‘hatchback’ type rear window. I don’t think you’ll notice that much difference in performance in any of the 5 series so a 540 could be a steal.

The handling and feel of the car is stunning. I can only speak from a 570S Spyder perspective but in normal settings, the car can be used everyday - in sport or track it’s turned up to 11.

There’s a lot of them for sale at the moment and with the uncertain economy, the represent an awful lot of car for sensible money.

Matty3

1,186 posts

85 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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All 570 models represent excellent value for money and in my opinion have the fun factor that the competition lacks smile

I was going down the GT route as I do a fair amount of European touring and I thought the extra storage was important for the better half) but in the end went for the Spyder

Try 'em all you will know which one suits you best smile - good luck

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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Imo it’s all about looks.

naboo

118 posts

114 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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The GT's a really daily driver, although they're all easy to live with, just nice to have that bit more space plus as other's have said it's down to look and that glass rear is stunning IMO. My car was already specced with sports suspension, carbon ceramic brakes, sports exhaust so sort of the best of both worlds. That's the great thing you can mix and match, a lot of options to choose from. They're all great cars though, the 540's a bargain but I'd drop along to a main dealer, see what's on offer.

Sarnie

8,058 posts

210 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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It depends on your usage.

I had a GT for three months and found it dull...…..sound deadening was too much, very quiet..........steel brakes weren't great......glass ceiling was tinted so was almost always dark in the car, not really a glass ceiling as you'd expect...….I never used the rear deck area once......and if I did, I wouldn't want to use the rear hatch that would have you leaning against the car and lifting your luggage over the car...….

The S was hugely different when it arrived...…..throttle response was markedly more aggressive.....more focused.......louder...…..sharper braking with the ceramics.....very subtle differences that you probably wouldn't pick up on, on a short test drive in both....

bunyarra

310 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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New 507GT owner here. Tried the Spyder, 570s and 570GT for long drives before deciding (after driving and dismissing Aston's as a bit boring by comparison).

As this is my daily driver not a weekend car, I appreciated the dual personality of the 570GT. It is more comfortable than my old F Type and it's suspension better at absorbing crap UK road bumps than the wife's golf. Would not have believed it. An, IMHO, it is the better looking of all the 3 cars, the lines are more sorted and flow well.

Then, when you want it to be that thrilling ride, it delivers in ways I had never experienced, a personality change of dramatic proportions. An astonishing car and the dealer experience was impeccable. You need to factor in extra time in car parks/petrol stations etc. just to extract yourself from onlookers smile

I did notice subtle difference between the GT and S/Spyder but found the GT more enjoyable as a daily car. Amazing in traffic, the extra storage has proved useful already and not having a drone in your ear when pottering on the M'way with 1000 other cars is nice.

To be fair, the exhaust sound is nowhere near as satisfying a the F Type for any 5 series McLaren - you need an MSO upgrade or 3rd party one if that's important.

The Spyder was utterly amazing ... if only I'd open the roof for more than 10% of journeys. If you will, then that's the beasite for you smile

ICE can only be described as "interesting". DAB will work .. sometimes (to be fair, about as often as the F Type!). The standard speak system is utterly crap ... try for the upgraded Bowers system, sounds impeccable. The map button in the Apps menu has baffled McLaren owners worldwide and, rumour has it, does do something but no one can figure out what.

Oh, final tip, Orange is known to be the best performance upgrade you can spec for them!

Targarama

14,636 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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bunyarra said:
New 507GT owner here. Tried the Spyder, 570s and 570GT for long drives before deciding (after driving and dismissing Aston's as a bit boring by comparison).

As this is my daily driver not a weekend car, I appreciated the dual personality of the 570GT. It is more comfortable than my old F Type and it's suspension better at absorbing crap UK road bumps than the wife's golf. Would not have believed it. An, IMHO, it is the better looking of all the 3 cars, the lines are more sorted and flow well.

Then, when you want it to be that thrilling ride, it delivers in ways I had never experienced, a personality change of dramatic proportions. An astonishing car and the dealer experience was impeccable. You need to factor in extra time in car parks/petrol stations etc. just to extract yourself from onlookers smile

I did notice subtle difference between the GT and S/Spyder but found the GT more enjoyable as a daily car. Amazing in traffic, the extra storage has proved useful already and not having a drone in your ear when pottering on the M'way with 1000 other cars is nice.

To be fair, the exhaust sound is nowhere near as satisfying a the F Type for any 5 series McLaren - you need an MSO upgrade or 3rd party one if that's important.

The Spyder was utterly amazing ... if only I'd open the roof for more than 10% of journeys. If you will, then that's the beasite for you smile

ICE can only be described as "interesting". DAB will work .. sometimes (to be fair, about as often as the F Type!). The standard speak system is utterly crap ... try for the upgraded Bowers system, sounds impeccable. The map button in the Apps menu has baffled McLaren owners worldwide and, rumour has it, does do something but no one can figure out what.

Oh, final tip, Orange is known to be the best performance upgrade you can spec for them!
I agree. If purely a weekend car then maybe a 570S is perfect, but for daily M1 grind AND fun at weekends I chose the 570GT too. Try a Larini exhaust - sounds just right and much cheaper than the MSO option.

Most people test drive a 570GT with a standard exhaust (or a 570GT sports exhaust, which is basically a 570S standard exhaust). Fix that and the car is awesome. I wouldn't change anything else about mine.

Edited to add: check out the Chris Harris video about the 570GT on Youtube.

Buster73

Original Poster:

5,077 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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Thanks for the replies.

The Surveyor

7,577 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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I'll have to join you again on one of the North East drives. I've had my 's' for coming up to 2 years now and at the moment I can't see me changing it for anything else either old or new. It's been a fabulous car to own.



It's very different to the Astons, still great, still very usable, still very quick, but different. Mines the 's' and I personally prefer the open engine deck and aero buttresses at the rear to the GT although I think I'm in the minority.

As noted above, the GT is slightly softer in feel although that doesn't mean the 's' is GT3 hard, in 'normal' the suspension is very compliant even on the rougher North East back roads, and 'sport' is a hoot on the Hartside Road where 'track' is a little too jiggly.

There is a dealer in Leeds now and they have a decent stock despite the pop-up nature of their current Unit, nice guys and I'm sure they would let you have a decent test drive in both the GT and S so you can see if the differences are noticeable. There are some 's' spec GT's too which just adds to the complication, incorporating the firmer suspension and steering off the 's' in a GT body. Also, originally the GT had the same steel disk brakes as the 540c, although again I think more are coming through with the carbon ceramic brakes which come as standard on the 's'. The ceramic brakes are fabulous, but again you don't see any complaints about the power of the steel rotors in fact they are supposed to have slightly better 'feel' under use.

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drcarrera

791 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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As someone else who is considering a 570 there are some very helpful comments here!
One question I have - how do owners find the width on UK roads? The 570 seems a pretty wide car and it's one thing that I could see being a bit of an issue for me. I've previously had a Vantage and had no issue with that but of course it's a fair bit narrower than a Mac.

bunyarra

310 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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No different to the F Type TBH. Only feels wide because you are low to the ground. It fits in my 1960's garage designed for Austin Seven's smile

The Surveyor

7,577 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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drcarrera said:
As someone else who is considering a 570 there are some very helpful comments here!
One question I have - how do owners find the width on UK roads? The 570 seems a pretty wide car and it's one thing that I could see being a bit of an issue for me. I've previously had a Vantage and had no issue with that but of course it's a fair bit narrower than a Mac.
They are wide, but they do that trick of shrinking around you.

I had a Vantage before the 570s and it is certainly wider, but not scary wide partly due to the exceptional visibility out of the front.

Part of the illusion is because you sit quite central in the 570 cabin with very little between the seats where there is quite a wide prop-shaft tunnel in the Aston. You don't feel like you are sat over the white line in the 570s like you would in other 'wide' cars like a big-Merc or Range Rover, although they are wider at the back so watch the inner wheel in tighter car parks!

naboo

118 posts

114 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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drcarrera said:
As someone else who is considering a 570 there are some very helpful comments here!
One question I have - how do owners find the width on UK roads? The 570 seems a pretty wide car and it's one thing that I could see being a bit of an issue for me.
No problem on the roads at all, it doesn't seem wide once you're in the driving seat, the car's very easy to place with great visibility all round.The odd thing is those doors need less space than a conventional design too... I've got out of spaces I couldn't escape from in my Evora, which was a narrower car.

justin220

5,350 posts

205 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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I have also came from a Vantage to my 540C, and can't say I've noticed it being much wider, if at all. I dare say it is, but not enough to be noticeable.

Mine is on the steel brakes, and for me they are brilliant on the road. I found they had more feel on normal driving than the CCB, although I don't do any track driving

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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justin220 said:
Mine is on the steel brakes, and for me they are brilliant on the road. I found they had more feel on normal driving than the CCB, although I don't do any track driving
I have the CCB's which I find very good but I'd like to mention the steering and handling too. I had the trick suspension on both the 650 and 720 but I prefer the handling and steering feel on the 570. Again it may be different on a track but in the road the 570 just feels more involved.

Although it's entirely possible that I'm just not a good enough driver to get a super series properly awake!

Buster73

Original Poster:

5,077 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th March 2019
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The Surveyor said:
I'll have to join you again on one of the North East drives. I've had my 's' for coming up to 2 years now and at the moment I can't see me changing it for anything else either old or new. It's been a fabulous car to own.



It's very different to the Astons, still great, still very usable, still very quick, but different. Mines the 's' and I personally prefer the open engine deck and aero buttresses at the rear to the GT although I think I'm in the minority.

As noted above, the GT is slightly softer in feel although that doesn't mean the 's' is GT3 hard, in 'normal' the suspension is very compliant even on the rougher North East back roads, and 'sport' is a hoot on the Hartside Road where 'track' is a little too jiggly.

There is a dealer in Leeds now and they have a decent stock despite the pop-up nature of their current Unit, nice guys and I'm sure they would let you have a decent test drive in both the GT and S so you can see if the differences are noticeable. There are some 's' spec GT's too which just adds to the complication, incorporating the firmer suspension and steering off the 's' in a GT body. Also, originally the GT had the same steel disk brakes as the 540c, although again I think more are coming through with the carbon ceramic brakes which come as standard on the 's'. The ceramic brakes are fabulous, but again you don't see any complaints about the power of the steel rotors in fact they are supposed to have slightly better 'feel' under use.

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Thanks for that Paul , I’ll send you a pm next time we pop out in case you miss the post on the AM section.

12pack

1,559 posts

169 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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drcarrera said:
As someone else who is considering a 570 there are some very helpful comments here!
One question I have - how do owners find the width on UK roads? The 570 seems a pretty wide car and it's one thing that I could see being a bit of an issue for me. I've previously had a Vantage and had no issue with that but of course it's a fair bit narrower than a Mac.
FWIW, my 650S - and also my DD Tesla - though considerably wider than my V12V, are far easier to place on the road because of seat position relative to the low hood. Especially the 650s, with the tops of the fenders indicating exactly where the front wheels are.

crimbo

1,308 posts

229 months

Wednesday 20th March 2019
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bunyarra said:
No different to the F Type TBH. Only feels wide because you are low to the ground. It fits in my 1960's garage designed for Austin Seven's smile
How wides the garage inside?