Camera work gone downhill around the track?

[TheDeuce]

Not sure if it's the placement/number of cameras around the track, or just bad directing of which feeds to use, but I found myself always wanting to see an angle I wasn't being shown.

When Ricciardo lost the front wing it took ages for them to find a better shot of what had happened, and when they did it wasn't great.

Also just seen footage of recently put up on F1 site of kubica losing his wing, and the best shot they have is from a camera about 100m away! That was a turn one incident, we don't get trackside cameras down their anymore..?

I know they've put more cameras on the cars, I didn't realise that was going to be at the expense of less track cameras though.

Anyone else noticed this?

[Stan the Bat]

Yep, didn't seem as good as previous years.

[Deesee]

Err,

What exactly do you want to see, they showed (world feed) the action (mostly midfield) through the race.

In terms of the start, when DR and RK lost wings, the cameras tend to be towards the front of the grid not the back, but they managed to pick up.

The world feed showed at least 3/4 replays of of start, all showing that Dani Ric went lawnmowing for no reason watch again..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NdD8gEGj0to

[Stan the Bat]

Didn't see much of the Haas wheelnut problem, normally various different views of pit action.

[Deesee]

Stan the Bat said:

Didn't see much of the Haas wheelnut problem, normally various different views of pit action.

Really it was shown live..

Edit and they they replayed it too

There you go

https://streamable.com/t55tv

Edited by Deesee on Monday 18th March 19:25

[Stan the Bat]

Deesee said:

Stan the Bat said:

Didn't see much of the Haas wheelnut problem, normally various different views of pit action.

Really it was shown live..

Edit and they they replayed it too

There you go

https://streamable.com/t55tv

Edited by Deesee on Monday 18th March 19:25

But only from the one angle, previously you had other views as well.

[Deesee]

Stan the Bat said:

Deesee said:

Stan the Bat said:

Didn't see much of the Haas wheelnut problem, normally various different views of pit action.

Really it was shown live..

Edit and they they replayed it too

There you go

https://streamable.com/t55tv

Edited by Deesee on Monday 18th March 19:25

But only from the one angle, previously you had other views as well.

You want a camera man opposite every pit stop...+ the normal camera position on 10 garages for a whole race. So 20 cameras...for a one stop race.. (just in case eh)

[Stan the Bat]

I'm just saying what we used to get.

Don't know why you think the camera work was ok, it wasn't as good as previous years, but glad you are happy with it.

[markbigears]

I’m sure there are the same amount of cameramen / woman providing the action

[Stan the Bat]

markbigears said:

I’m sure there are the same amount of cameramen / woman providing the action

See first post.

[Deesee]

Stan,

Are you thinking of the spider cam that would run up and down the pit lane..

[Stan the Bat]

Deesee said:

Stan,

Are you thinking of the spider cam that would run up and down the pit lane..

Possibly, you could certainly see the off side wheel change better than shown yesterday.

[TheDeuce]

markbigears said:

I’m sure there are the same amount of cameramen / woman providing the action

There was action in that race where the only cameras they had on it were further away than in the past, and they seemed to have a more limited choice of cameras to switch to.

I spend half my life in TV studios, soundstages and filming on location, often live, and to me it actually does look like they have less operators around the track than last season.

[Deesee]

Stan the Bat said:

Deesee said:

Stan,

Are you thinking of the spider cam that would run up and down the pit lane..

Possibly, you could certainly see the off side wheel change better than shown yesterday.

They tend to run those up and down the full length of the pit lane (the Melbourne pit lane is really long as it has the supercar pits in front)..

So on that shot they would ‘follow’ in front of the pitting car when they are coming down the pit straight, then the spider cam would either go out and zoom in (so looking at the car front left and garage behind/ and the cam works on a x y & z axis) when the car ‘boxes’ then either ‘follow’ up the pit lane or you would get a hand held shot?

[Stan the Bat]

Sounds as though that might be be it..


Have they gone now ?

[Deesee]

Stan the Bat said:

Sounds as though that might be be it..


Have they gone now ?

They definitely were not there, I’m sure they’ll be back, might be a pit lane length thing.

[Stan the Bat]

Just need a permanent one over the Haas pit.

[Deesee]

Stan the Bat said:

Just need a permanent one over the Haas pit.

Im sure Netflix have got it.

[williamp]

I remember watching a GP2 race at Monaco and they had loads of different camera angles. Not just the long shot over the harbour as they exit the tunnel...

..maybe sky are paying for the budget feed..

[TheDeuce]

I felt the commentators also struggled a little to see what was what quite often. I know they're prompted, but the the person doing the prompting will also struggle if they can't see a good angle.

For whatever reason, I suspect money saving, they seem to have reduced the number of track cameras. Maybe they thought that with more car cameras they could afford less track cameras.. Which is fine when the spectacle is racing. But when there's an incident and the nearest track camera is 30m away and on the wrong side of the track to see what happened, not so useful.