Track it at the 'Ring
RMA offers track day next to F1 boys
Image courtesy Ben Lovejoy |
Track day organiser RMA is offering a unique track day at the Nurburgring.
It has managed to rent the infamous Nordschleife exclusively on 27 May -- the Friday before the Grand Prix weekend. Surprisingly, RMA has also managed to secure accommodation at a nearby five-star hotel and is offering packages from just £455 to include accommodation, track time and channel crossing by Eurotunnel or P&O Ferries.
As the RMA day unfolds on the Nordschleife, the F1 teams will be on the south circuit which at points run within a few metres of each other.
"We have priced this extremely competitively in the hope of building our already excellent relationship with the Rings management and maybe securing a couple of days together this time next year when the weather is likely to be a little more welcoming than our traditional two days in November", said RMA managing director Graham Clarke.
When: Friday 27 May 2005
Where: Nürburgring Norschleife
More on 01628 779000 or enquiries@rma-limited.com
macg said:
So who has driven the 'Ring? Is it any good?
But I am interested in hearing who has done the real thing.
Yip & so have most petrolheads, just like those who kneel on bathmats everyday to pray have to go to Mecca.
Lots of threads have been done on 'ring trips on this forum & gen gassing forum, use the search function.
macg said:
So who has driven the 'Ring?
Once or twice
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macg said:
Is it any good?
Does the Pope sh1t in the woods?
macg said:
Anyone care to own up to/brag about lap times (include car details).
Loads of different cars, between 7 and 12 minutes BTG (7 was not on a tourist day). I'm sure there will be a few more along soon.
macg said:
I have completed it in the new M5 in 7 minutes 30 seconds.
Ok, so that was on GT4. But I am interested in hearing who has done the real thing.
Forget GT4 - that's a computer game. Very well rendered scenery, but nothing like the way it drive in real life. Have a look at the Alzen, Stippler, Scheid and M3GTR laps, downloadable from various places.
jacobyte said:
Loads of different cars, between 7 and 12 minutes BTG (7 was not on a tourist day). I'm sure there will be a few more along soon.
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Very impressive.
What does Hr. Alzen go round in, in the 700hp 911?
macg said:
Anyone care to own up to/brag about lap times (include car details).
unscientifically measured, but approx BTGs for me:
Opel Speedster 150hp: 8:50-9min
Smart Roadster 82hp: 9:40 (pretty accurately timed, since several Ringers have a little bet going on who's fastest - one cocky VLN driver got his Smoadster rental to 9:26, never to be repeated since that required taking Schwedenkreuz flat :O, which even in a Smoady is a frightening 185-190kph)
Beetle Cabrio tdi: about 10:30, 4 up
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BMW 116, 115hp: about 9:30
Alfa 156 2l SW: 9:20
I don't brake that late, or really push the faster bits (Miss-hit-miss, SX, Angstkurv etc), and usually have to drive home 700km, so these times could all be improved with bigger balls. But then again I haven't crashed yet either
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Kurt
www.nurburgring.org.uk/who/details.php?u=167
This would be very helpful in at least knowing what is coming up behind the next blind turn, therefore getting you up to a reasonable speed in a shorter time (and not have bikes or GT3s closing on you with huge speed differences)
cheers
Kurt
jacobyte said:
macg said:
I have completed it in the new M5 in 7 minutes 30 seconds.
Ok, so that was on GT4. But I am interested in hearing who has done the real thing.
Forget GT4 - that's a computer game. Very well rendered scenery, but nothing like the way it drive in real life. Have a look at the Alzen, Stippler, Scheid and M3GTR laps, downloadable from various places.
davyboy said:
8.28 944 turbo
9.01 Clio Cup
10.14 after 2 laps in my daily drive Astra Sri.
All time taken from video camera's after the event, and before the camera ban.
I use the car stereo - hit play on the 12+minute song I burned to CD at the bridge, then check the counter at the Gantry
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Usually just do this once or twice per trip - if you worry too much about time, very bad things can happen :/
Would love to try a 944 Turbo some time - had a couple paxes in Ben Lovejoy's NA, fun car!
Kurt
davyboy said:
In fact this weekend it was never free, and all 25 laps were with someone in the car.
Dave
I'll have to apologise for taking the edge off your two-up times due to my enormous bulk
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Cheers for the laps fella!
PS can recommend a lap with Dave as it's a comfy fast, smooth lap in the 944 turbo!
>> Edited by fergus on Friday 20th May 17:44
www.nurburgring.net/images/may04/imagepages/image15.html
this was my ride last weekend:
www.nurburgring.net/images/may04/imagepages/image16.html
www.nurburgring.net/images/may04/imagepages/image159.html
www.nurburgring.net/images/may04/imagepages/image168.html
as with you, the passenger seat was never empty, ok except for a few laps at 8AM saturday morning when all sane people were asleep..
yeah, Ed's a maniac, and Clios are quick, but the seats need better bolstering
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cheers
Kurt
davyboy said:
If the seats free - jump in.
In fact this weekend it was never free, and all 25 laps were with someone in the car.
Dave
BTW the Clio is more fun, but I guess you have been in Ed's.
>> Edited by kedelbach on Sunday 22 May 11:50
Behind TH for 3 laps - apart from a short break while a care drove straight in to the armco at MHM.
www.nurburgring.net/images/may04/imagepages/image41.html
Interesting my lights are working OK in this one, only a few laps later?!?!?
www.nurburgring.net/images/may04/imagepages/image64.html
The brakes in that car are savage - I was trying to get my brother in his car for a lap, as he does some mild tracking of a '82 911SC in the States, but would have been forced to convert it to RS spec after getting a taste of the Yellow Peril
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Was that a stickered up Civic? Saw them sweeping earth off the track around MHM...
Cool wheels on your 944 - have to keep an eye out for you next trip (probably July/Aug but not set in stone yet) and get a lap!
cheers
Kurt
davyboy said:
This is me!
Behind TH for 3 laps - apart from a short break while a care drove straight in to the armco at MHM.
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Interesting my lights are working OK in this one, only a few laps later?!?!?
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>> Edited by kedelbach on Monday 23 May 08:03
kedelbach said:
yeah, Ed's a maniac, and Clios are quick, but the seats need better bolstering)
Huh? Althought I was questioning my sanity Saturday when my winter tyres finally wore out on the 540iT. Round they were not, and it seemed a miracle they were still holding air! At least they had the decency to make a vibration before they let go altogether. Ring Racing had a discarded set in the proper size on the junk heap so it was just mount a couple of those babies and out for some more laps.
Of course I won't mention opening day last year where I tested the Renault tyre goo for 10 laps...
>> Edited by Hammerwerfer on Monday 23 May 12:02
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Kurt
Hammerwerfer said:
kedelbach said:
yeah, Ed's a maniac, and Clios are quick, but the seats need better bolstering)
Of course I won't mention opening day last year where I tested the Renault tyre goo for 10 laps...
>> Edited by Hammerwerfer on Monday 23 May 12:02
& Kedelbach/other locals - what's the weather forecast please ?
To you guys who've never driven the 'ring as a "closed" circuit, only on public days - you don't know what you're missing. Flying laps of the WHOLE circuit (therefore not missing out on the 2 mile straight), not partial BTG laps, medics, marshals, flags, no bikes/buses/coaches/japanese tourists out of their car taking photos etc etc. Decent track disciplines, driver briefings etc. Filming certainly wasn't a problem last November (having been banned on public days for some time), not sure what current thinking is though. Timing is strictly a no, no.
I've done both public & "closed" days & IMHO "closed" circuit laps are MUCH better.
As far as this trip is concerned, when you consider £445 included unlimited laps, return crossing & 5 star hotel, this is an absolute bargain. Worth going on RMA days just to see some of the machinery that usually turns up.
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