Golf 1.4 TSI or 2.0 GT TDI
Golf 1.4 TSI or 2.0 GT TDI
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aj2608

Original Poster:

10 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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I'm looking at buying a used golf mk 5 or 6, budget around £4k and am trying to decide between the 1.4 TSI 122 or a 2.0 GT TDI.

Main factors for me are good mpg (mixture of motorway and town driving) and fun to drive.
If I went for the 1.4 I'm considering getting it remapped.

I'd appreciate any advice or peoples experience of either of these cars.

p4cks

7,481 posts

228 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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I think that particular petrol engine was horrifically unreliable


ETA - CJ1 a few posts down has given a much more helpful reply than mine

Edited by p4cks on Friday 22 March 12:07

Mike335i

6,029 posts

131 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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The 2.0 will be the more powerful and gutsy engine, not necessarily nicer though.

How important is mpg to you? Is 30mpg ok? If not then the diesel (if in good condition) may suit you more.

Test them both and see what you prefer.

aj2608

Original Poster:

10 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Fairly important! Ideally I would like 35-40mpg.

CJ1

470 posts

107 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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If we are talking MK6, the 1.4TSI came in two variations. The 122 in the normal S, SE, Match etc. And the 160 in the GT. The 122 is a relatively reliable little engine, for good reviews all around, but make sure the timing chain has been maintained/ replaced as that’s a bit of a weak point but if the car has full Service history and not run low on oil it should be fine. On the other hand, the 160 in the GT is a completely different engine that’s an absolute nightmare. It’s Twin Charged Supercharged and Turbo, and is notoriously unreliable.

The 2.0TDI is a very reliable engine, unfortunately let down by the Dieselgate Scandal. Part of the Software update/Fix for the cars was to work the DPF a lot harder to comply with emissions regulations. My old 1.6TDI used to have to regenerate every 100 miles and suffered EGR and Injector failure. Fortunately covered under the two year warranty they gave after having the Update done (which would’ve now expired).

The 1.4TSI 122 in March trim would be my vote.

aj2608

Original Poster:

10 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Thanks that's very helpful. Confirms what I've been reading on several forums about the different engines on the 1.4.

Limpet

6,622 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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CJ1 said:
On the other hand, the 160 in the GT is a completely different engine that’s an absolute nightmare. It’s Twin Charged Supercharged and Turbo, and is notoriously unreliable.
Yes, terrible engine. A variant of it was also used in the later Fabia vRS. A good friend of mine is a Skoda tech, and reckons his dealership alone was changing an engine a week under warranty at one point. There was no way to stop them burning a litre of oil every 500-600 miles other than to replace them with a new engine. He mentioned that some of their customer's cars were on their third engine by a year old.

As others have said, thankfully it won't feature in the OP's choices.

Ninja59

3,691 posts

141 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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If it is the standard 1.4 TSI then fine, but the twin charged caused lots of issues.

From memory I know some people went through 2 engines, and Skoda got into trouble when replacing these engines as they put the original engine number on the replacement engines...which naturally made the DVLA a bit unhappy.

aj2608

Original Poster:

10 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Nope, I'm specifically looking at the 122, not the bigger engines.

rallye101

2,517 posts

226 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Gwwawdd! My gt tdi is an F'inn nightmare at 80k miles....run run run!!@@@

ZX10R NIN

30,528 posts

154 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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What's your annual mileage? That'll really make the decision easier.

aj2608

Original Poster:

10 posts

126 months

Monday 25th March 2019
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My annual mileage will be about 6000, not sure it's enough to warrant a diesel. Anyway thanks for all your advice I decided on a 1.4 and bought myself a black one yesterday smile

ZX10R NIN

30,528 posts

154 months

Monday 25th March 2019
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Spot on with only doing 6k a year the 1.4T was the right choice, enjoy the car.

Mike335i

6,029 posts

131 months

Monday 25th March 2019
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aj2608 said:
My annual mileage will be about 6000, not sure it's enough to warrant a diesel. Anyway thanks for all your advice I decided on a 1.4 and bought myself a black one yesterday smile
Spot on, no need to go TDI for that mileage. Enjoy and let us know how the remap goes!

RSTurboPaul

13,068 posts

287 months

Tuesday 26th March 2019
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rallye101 said:
Gwwawdd! My gt tdi is an F'inn nightmare at 80k miles....run run run!!@@@
How so?