Pension tax relief, 20% or 25%??
Pension tax relief, 20% or 25%??
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Orchid1

Original Poster:

906 posts

137 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Is anyone able to confirm what pension tax relief you get on any contributions to a private scheme if you're a basic rate tax payer?

Most sources say it's 20% however when I pay in a contribution to this particular scheme they claim 25% tax back :s??


Croutons

13,355 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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What’s your starting point?

You pay in £8, they reclaim £2. Which is 25% of the £8.

If you start from the gross contribution (£10) you only paid in 80%, ie £8, ie 20% of the £10 is reclaimed.

They’re doing it right.

Orchid1

Original Poster:

906 posts

137 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Croutons said:
What’s your starting point?

You pay in £8, they reclaim £2. Which is 25% of the £8.

If you start from the gross contribution (£10) you only paid in 80%, ie £8, ie 20% of the £10 is reclaimed.

They’re doing it right.
I did a test of £50, they said that will be topped up by £12.50 ie 25% which means £62.50 will be going in whereas I would have thought if you paid in £50 the final total amount after tax relief would be £60?

Croutons

13,355 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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It's the gross/ net distinction:

You wanted to pay £62.50 into your pension. You've been taxed at 20% on that already. Which is £12.50.

So to pay £62.50 into your pension you have to put in £50, and get that 20% (of the gross contribution) tax back.

Stop thinking of the £12.50 as a % of the £50. As much as it is, it isn't- the 20% reclaimed is 20% of the gross sum into the pension.

It just happens to also work out as a convenient % of what you put in too, which is annoying.

They're not overclaiming. They can't.

Orchid1

Original Poster:

906 posts

137 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Croutons said:
It's the gross/ net distinction:

You wanted to pay £62.50 into your pension. You've been taxed at 20% on that already. Which is £12.50.

So to pay £62.50 into your pension you have to put in £50, and get that 20% (of the gross contribution) tax back.

Stop thinking of the £12.50 as a % of the £50. As much as it is, it isn't- the 20% reclaimed is 20% of the gross sum into the pension.

It just happens to also work out as a convenient % of what you put in too, which is annoying.

They're not overclaiming. They can't.
Ok thanks, I think I see what you mean now smile.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 22nd March 2019
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Croutons said:
It's the gross/ net distinction:

You wanted to pay £62.50 into your pension. You've been taxed at 20% on that already. Which is £12.50.

So to pay £62.50 into your pension you have to put in £50, and get that 20% (of the gross contribution) tax back.

Stop thinking of the £12.50 as a % of the £50. As much as it is, it isn't- the 20% reclaimed is 20% of the gross sum into the pension.

It just happens to also work out as a convenient % of what you put in too, which is annoying.

They're not overclaiming. They can't.
To the OP - you get good, free advice on this forum smile