Deposit paid, but has it been sold to someone else?
Deposit paid, but has it been sold to someone else?
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Rigsbyg

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13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Hello one and all,

I put a deposit down on a used car, I got the finance in place and also sold my car (I am now without a car for a few days). I am due to collect it on April 1st because I said there’s no point picking it up towards the end of the month because most of the March road tax will be redundant; who wants to waste money on an empty month’s worth of tax? It’s better in our pockets than DVLA’s.

So, I spoke to the salesperson three days ago because I wanted to check up on whether they had fixed an advisory they promised to take care of, but I was told that when they took it in the engine light now comes on so they’re going to see what that issue is, too.

Last week, the DVLA website showed the vehicle as not being taxed, but today it is. They are a dealer so don’t need to tax it; they have trade plates.

Obviously, I am a little concerned that the dealer and salesperson both want money in their bank accounts and may have sold it to someone else; they did say another person wanted to test drive it. Maybe they didn’t want to spend money fixing the advisory so came up with the new engine light excuse to attempt to put me off?

Today, I contacted my insurance company to ask if they could let me know, by looking on a national database, whether it has been insured by someone else, but they couldn’t / wouldn’t help me.

Ultimately, the dealer could give me back my deposit if they did sell it to someone else. But, is selling it to someone else illegal once I have paid a deposit? Is that not in some way legally binding? Would there be a way to eventually get the car from the other person? Could I take legal action against the dealer? Etc. Etc.

I also bought cheaper insurance on the car because I was an existing customer, but if I have to cancel the new insurance it will take me a few days to find another car and thus I won’t get the existing customer discount.

I text the salesperson today, but I was told she wasn’t working yesterday (on a Saturday!) and on Sundays (today) they are closed so will contact me tomorrow.

...There are so many things spinning around in my head right now.

Does anybody have any experience, advice or insight on what could possibly be happening and what I could do?

Many thanks in advance for everyone’s help, jokes, banter and alike!

trickywoo

14,133 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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You are likely worrying about nothing.

Deposit normally means a contract has been made.

Unless you’ve been coming across like you don’t want the car anymore they will have been very unlikely to sell it someone else. If they had they would just make some other excuse and return your deposit.

Truckosaurus

13,240 posts

313 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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This is why you should never pay (or take) a deposit. First person to pay in full gets the car.

Sheepshanks

40,911 posts

148 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Rigsbyg said:
Ultimately, the dealer could give me back my deposit if they did sell it to someone else. But, is selling it to someone else illegal once I have paid a deposit? Is that not in some way legally binding? Would there be a way to eventually get the car from the other person? Could I take legal action against the dealer? Etc. Etc.
It's not illegal but it's a breach of contract. Dealers seem to be able to do this with impunity but get all upset when customers cancel.

Swampy1982

3,599 posts

140 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Why not just head down to the dealers to talk to someone, doesn't need unto be the specific sales person you've been dealing with...

shake n bake

2,221 posts

236 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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How much is the road tax per year?

Warby80

330 posts

121 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Check the reg on askmid and see if its insured?

Auto810graphy

1,611 posts

121 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Did you sign an order or did they produce an invoice for the car? At this point it is a contract but I have never known anyone try to claim for loss on a similar situation.

It is bad form but don’t worry and move on as any company that acts like this now will be hard work if you have any fiture warranty issues but from the side of the dealer sometimes there are customers you don’t really want to get involved with.

Other option is they have taxed it for you in error.

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Warby80 said:
Check the reg on askmid and see if its insured?
Thanks. It says it is, but wouldn’t that be mine that starts on April 1st? 🤔

Warby80

330 posts

121 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Rigsbyg said:
Warby80 said:
Check the reg on askmid and see if its insured?
Thanks. It says it is, but wouldn’t that be mine that starts on April 1st? ??
Possibly, i think your easiest option is just to ring them in the morning and ask.

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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trickywoo said:
You are likely worrying about nothing.

Deposit normally means a contract has been made.

Unless you’ve been coming across like you don’t want the car anymore they will have been very unlikely to sell it someone else. If they had they would just make some other excuse and return your deposit.
Let’s hope you’re right, but it is strange how it’s suddenly taxed a week or so before month’s end. No, I’ve only showed positive buying signals, especially after also paying a deposit. Let’s hope it all comes out in the wash. Cheers

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Swampy1982 said:
Why not just head down to the dealers to talk to someone, doesn't need unto be the specific sales person you've been dealing with...
I wish I could, but now that I’m without a vehicle it’s a little difficult as they’re 20 minutes drive away. I suppose I could get on my bike 🚲 💨

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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shake n bake said:
How much is the road tax per year?
I understand what you’re saying, but it’s the principle of it. We shouldn’t have to pay tax on something we haven’t used. Three weeks of emptiness is a waste, and only DVLA’s gain. Thanks though smile

Nickp82

3,943 posts

122 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Are there private plates involved at all? I am wondering if the car was perhaps retaxed to do a transfer/ retention for the previous customer (if it was a px)

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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anonymous said:
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I absolutely agree with you, but the actual model /style isn’t available too often. I have been following the various types online when they come up for sale, and so jumped at the opportunity when it arose. I do have other cars in mind, but this is my ‘baby’ ...or perhaps not so, if the case may be 😂

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Auto810graphy said:
Did you sign an order or did they produce an invoice for the car? At this point it is a contract but I have never known anyone try to claim for loss on a similar situation.

It is bad form but don’t worry and move on as any company that acts like this now will be hard work if you have any fiture warranty issues but from the side of the dealer sometimes there are customers you don’t really want to get involved with.

Other option is they have taxed it for you in error.
Yes, I did think of that earlier. Perhaps the last owner had the tax set up with DVLA on auto-renew. The dealer ‘seems’ like they’re okay even though they’re very small. They offered a limited 6 month warranty, but I was going for a 12 month option with more bells and whistles. Thanks smile

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Nickp82 said:
Are there private plates involved at all? I am wondering if the car was perhaps retaxed to do a transfer/ retention for the previous customer (if it was a px)
They’re normal plates. It may have had private plates, but if so, they seemed to be long gone smile

LarsG

991 posts

104 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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Wait till tomorrow, call them and chill. Their worst that could happen is that you get your deposit back and have to use the bus for a week until you find another car.

Incidentally, I bought a car from Jennings in South Shields, paid a deposit but couldn't collect it for 3 weeks. Then I had to delay because of snow. No sweat, just let them know there would be a delay. It was there ready to go when I got there 4 weeks after paying the deposit.

Rigsbyg

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Sunday 24th March 2019
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LarsG said:
Wait till tomorrow, call them and chill. Their worst that could happen is that you get your deposit back and have to use the bus for a week until you find another car.

Incidentally, I bought a car from Jennings in South Shields, paid a deposit but couldn't collect it for 3 weeks. Then I had to delay because of snow. No sweat, just let them know there would be a delay. It was there ready to go when I got there 4 weeks after paying the deposit.
A bus! teehee smile I live in the sticks. Luckily, I work from home. Yes, I shall chill; after all, it’s only a car even though it’s a beauty. Think Cindy Crawford in her prime 😜

I’m glad that you eventually got your car, too!

Spy

1,323 posts

236 months

Thursday 28th March 2019
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Any update Rigsbyg