Will technology take the fun out of driving ?
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Expect insurers will love to have access to all the data. Some of this is useful but .....,,,
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/speed-...
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/speed-...
cc3 said:
Expect insurers will love to have access to all the data. Some of this is useful but .....,,,
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/speed-...
That reads like an article from The Onion.https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/speed-...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
Yes, but as much as I hate to mention values, it will make older cars more desirable.
The interesting bit for Porsche though is the bit that talks about it only applying to all new cars and not new versions of existing cars, so that's most of the Porsche range, with the 911 having been around since 1963 it should be ok,.
As is typical it seems to assume that all accidents are all caused by the just one thing! Can't see it reducing deaths to zero, especially since it seems to assume that the limit is always the right speed for the conditions.
Yes, but as much as I hate to mention values, it will make older cars more desirable.
The interesting bit for Porsche though is the bit that talks about it only applying to all new cars and not new versions of existing cars, so that's most of the Porsche range, with the 911 having been around since 1963 it should be ok,.
As is typical it seems to assume that all accidents are all caused by the just one thing! Can't see it reducing deaths to zero, especially since it seems to assume that the limit is always the right speed for the conditions.
anonymous said:
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Hard to see that being possible on a practical basis? Would cost thousands on some cars. Although on a Panamera with Porche innodrive or whatever they call it it's probably a software update. It would be possible on older cars if you ban them though ...Wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a ban on cars without this technology in major cities five to ten years after it first gets implemented.
So there still might be some freedom on a few German autobahn.
Otherwise, an absolute limit of 70 on an empty motorway in the dead of night. Or no more than 60 on an empty mountain road in Wales.
It's the end of fast and safe road driving as we know it. Maybe we can enjoy our hobby a bit longer in our classics. But for how much longer? As cmoose fears, if they bring in a mandatory black box tracker for all cars that instantly transmits the slightest speed infringement then it's all over
Otherwise, an absolute limit of 70 on an empty motorway in the dead of night. Or no more than 60 on an empty mountain road in Wales.
It's the end of fast and safe road driving as we know it. Maybe we can enjoy our hobby a bit longer in our classics. But for how much longer? As cmoose fears, if they bring in a mandatory black box tracker for all cars that instantly transmits the slightest speed infringement then it's all over
supersport said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
Yes, but as much as I hate to mention values, it will make older cars more desirable.
The interesting bit for Porsche though is the bit that talks about it only applying to all new cars and not new versions of existing cars, so that's most of the Porsche range, with the 911 having been around since 1963 it should be ok,.
As is typical it seems to assume that all accidents are all caused by the just one thing! Can't see it reducing deaths to zero, especially since it seems to assume that the limit is always the right speed for the conditions.
It will apply to ALL models of ALL cars in 2022, no excape.Yes, but as much as I hate to mention values, it will make older cars more desirable.
The interesting bit for Porsche though is the bit that talks about it only applying to all new cars and not new versions of existing cars, so that's most of the Porsche range, with the 911 having been around since 1963 it should be ok,.
As is typical it seems to assume that all accidents are all caused by the just one thing! Can't see it reducing deaths to zero, especially since it seems to assume that the limit is always the right speed for the conditions.
In 2024 it will be retro fitted to all cars at MOT time.
anonymous said:
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Any car with GPS tracking will qualify for a box of tricks, so drive an expensive car @ 70 MPH, enjoy. 
Lets hope it gets kicked out as all the high end car manufacturers will loose a bundle along with Government loosing a shed load of Taxes.
Edited by JMBMWM5 on Wednesday 27th March 16:28
cc3 said:
Doesn't mention anywhere in that article that these systems can be turned off.This is also amusing;
"McPhail also questioned the reliance on GPS for the ISAs to function. He warned that - from Zurich's own experience of using black boxes for telematics insurance policies - coverage in rural areas is questionable, suggesting the technology might not be able to operate correctly in remote locations with little to no satellite connection."
I suspect that their telematics boxes fail where there is no mobile data coverage, what with GPS satellites not hovering over built up areas...
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