Mmmm Braded hoses (you should want these!)

[DuncanM]

I have just recieved some Goodridge braded hoses in a nice green colour (very close to my car!).

A big thankyou to Phil Cook for this as he sorted them out very quickly for me .

Check out the pics although they don't do them justice (mobile phone).




Phil posts on here as Cooky so if you want them get e-mailing .

Edited to add colour pics and link for Cooky .



Cooky

Duncan


>> Edited by DuncanM on Thursday 19th May 20:38

[Extra 300 Driver]

I get mine made up. ( from a shop near work )

[redleicester]

Braided hoses are great.... by god do the brakes feel good afterwards! I had them done back in the autumn, plus 5.1 brake fluid, and since the system calmed down it bit they been just fabulous.

[paul.a]

Do braided hoses really make a lot of difference??

[yellow peril]

I wonder if our Cerb had braided hoses then...........because that's the one huge difference you notice staight away between the Cerb and the Sagaris.......

The Cerbs brakes were really excellent........

YP



>> Edited by yellow peril on Saturday 21st May 07:34

[redleicester]

paul.a said:

Do braided hoses really make a lot of difference??

In a nutshell, and non-techy way, rubber hoses expand with pressure - so you put your foot on the brake, and the first little bit is absorbed by the hoses expanding, thus wasting the pressure that would otherwise be applied to the callipers. With a braided hose, the braids prevent the hose from expanding, thus less pressure is wasted, and the brakes apply quicker and harder. You can then add motorsport spec brake fluid which can handle not only the increased pressure, but also is less inclined to boil when it gets hot.

It takes a bit of getting used to at first - when mine were done pressing the pedal felt like kicking a brick wall, but they soon settled, and now they're simply awesome - easier to modulate too so you can brake faster and harder getting the maximum out of them before they lock...

IIRC I think the hoses and fluid all round plus bleeding and set up cost about £150-200ish. Well worth it, and a definite plus. I was especially glad of the 5.1 brake fluid, as I've seen one too many Cerbs go off the track from overheated brakes.... not something I wanted to experience first hand.

PS - I'm sure someone will be along in a minute pointing out what twaddle I'm speaking, but I did warn you I'm not overly clever with oily bits!

[froggie]

i can confirm boiling oil and total foot to the floor brake failure at over 100 mph dose wake you up a little,but the spectators enjoyed it. my 96 cerb has braded hoses i thaught they were standard?
ON one ocasion the braded clutch bleed pipe was not fasend down on mind,it caught the terminal on the starter,shorted to earth,got hot,melted the plastic liner,and set fire to the fluid,glad i carry a halon extinguisher,we all should as the fuses are overated for the wiring in many places.

[paul.a]

Thanks for that i think i wil have to get that done sounds like it will be better ive never been overly impressed with my brakes so will add that job when i get them serviced cheers

[Cooky]

Duncan,
I'm delighted you like the hoses, thanks for the post. I would be happy to hear your comments once you have had them fitted.

Redleicester most eloquently described the process of the "swelling" that occurs when EPDM or similar rubber hoses are used. This is actually called "Volumatic Expansion" and is corrected with the use of a Stainless Steel over braid applied to a PTFE liner.

However be VERY careful when using DOT 5 or above fluid. Make sure your braking system in thoroughly cleansed, and if possible Nitrogen Purge it. This specification uses a Fully Synthetic brake Fluid which will not mix with DOT 4 or below. Please be very careful.

Cheers,
Cooky

[redleicester]

Cooky said:

Duncan, I'm delighted you like the hoses, thanks for the post. I would be happy to hear your comments once you have had them fitted. Redleicester most eloquently described the process of the "swelling" that occurs when EPDM or similar rubber hoses are used. This is actually called "Volumatic Expansion" and is corrected with the use of a Stainless Steel over braid applied to a PTFE liner. However be VERY careful when using DOT 5 or above fluid. Make sure your braking system in thoroughly cleansed, and if possible Nitrogen Purge it. This specification uses a Fully Synthetic brake Fluid which will not mix with DOT 4 or below. Please be very careful. Cheers, Cooky

I knew someone was going to come back with all sorts of long and clever words!

Mine were done by the pros and were indead purged and cleaned through before the new fluid went in, but thanks for the explanation as to why!