So after Galloway, who else shall we send?
So after Galloway, who else shall we send?
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srebbe64

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266 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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Love him or hate him, it was amusing to see Galloway make mincemeat of the "slick" US politicians who were accusing him. It got me thinking, who else could we send over to have a debate with some American politicians - who basically have an easy ride compared to British MP's and Ministers. How about:

Ian Paisley to debate with US Senators who want a united Ireland?

or

Dennis Skinner to debate with Senators over social justice?

or

Tony Benn to meet some US "hawks" to discuss the pros and cons of resolving issues by military means.

or

Boris Johnson to debate with some US lefty Senators over "political correctness".

or

Jeremy Paxman to interview George W Bush - can you imagine that?




srebbe64

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266 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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los angeles said:
I like your last choice, Srebbe. Trouble with the US of Amnesia at this time is, patriotism is valued far more highly than truth.

I know - I spend a lot of time there (not as much as you though). They believe what they 'want' to believe. And they want to believe the USA is the "light of the world". Many still think that Iraq is linked to 9/11, for example. I was in the US when Iraq was attacked in 2003 and many were saying "pay back time". It is a ludicrous as, say, Britain bombing America after the Falklands being invaded. What it did do, of course, is create a wonderful breeding ground for would-be terrorists all over the Middle East. Add to the melting pot no WMD it's astonishing the penny hasn't yet dropped with most US citizens.

I was also in the USA during the elections. One chap got talking to me and when he realised I was from the UK he said "it must be interesting for you to experience democracy at such close hand". He thought we were led by the Queen who appointed the Prime Minister. I did explain the democracy was invented by the British, but I don't think he believed me.

2 Smokin Barrels

32,004 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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los angeles said:
He may have been thinking of the Greeks on your last count.


The Greeks appointed Tony Blair

srebbe64

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266 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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los angeles said:
He may have been thinking of the Greeks on your last count. Though I get taunted a lot by PHers about working here - the alternative back home is a very long season at Her Majesty's Job Centre - I am reasonably happy to be in California because they hate Bush, for the most part. In fact, Angelinos have just elected the first Latino mayor in their long history. I hope he governs wisely.

>> Edited by los angeles on Thursday 19th May 21:52

I have to say that I like Americans in general - they tend to have a very positive outlook on life. I've got timeshare in Florida and a few business interests dotted around the place. I always enjoy my time there - I'm in New York the week after next, in fact. What is astonishing is the "insular" view of the world that many have. Only a very small proportion (10% I think) have passports. Most rely purely on the (unbelievable) media coverage. I gather Fox News now has more viewers than CNN - which is a trifle disconcerting. When I'm in the US I really enjoy telling them about the world - many still think of the UK, for example, as being in a "Dickens" era with lots of fog! One cabbie said "what's most different about the USA to the UK?" I said "the roads are much more pot-holed". He replied "Yeah they're pretty good here". Amd I said "I mean the American roads are more pot-holed that the British ones". His face was a picture of shock and confusion!

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Thursday 19th May 2005
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2 Smokin Barrels said:
The Greeks appointed Tony Blair

No, he means they invented democracy about 3,000 years ago.

Then the Roman military dictatorship mashed them

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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Maximus? Would that be Nortius Maximus?

FourWheelDrift

92,252 posts

313 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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Can we send them Graham Norton, not for any political reason but just to get rid of the whiney camp tw@

8Pack

5,182 posts

269 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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I left my harp in Sam Pans disco.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

260 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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Someone who has more accuracy with a hand gernade.

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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Vicky Pollard - lets see them make sense of that car crash on legs.

Sue Pollard - that would deepen out Gene pool

Eve Pollard - see above.

Traffic Bollard - probably has more charisma than Dubya

Wellard - he needs a job after leaving Eastenders

Mallard - so they can see what a proper steam locomotive looks like.

aliged

1,081 posts

268 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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towman said:
Vicky Pollard - lets see them make sense of that car crash on legs.

Sue Pollard - that would deepen out Gene pool

Eve Pollard - see above.

Traffic Bollard - probably has more charisma than Dubya

Wellard - he needs a job after leaving Eastenders

Mallard - so they can see what a proper steam locomotive looks like.



Priceless!

8Pack

5,182 posts

269 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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Trooper2 said:
Someone who has more accuracy with a hand gernade.



OOOOooh!........ You are awful! but i like you!








srebbe64

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266 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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The odd thing is, I don't think I've ever seen George W Bush have an intellectual debate with anyone. He gives lots of speeches, but it would be very interesting to see how he'd cope in the equivalent of, say, Prime Ministers' Questions. Now I'd pay top dollar to see such a thing. But, I fear, I will never get the opportunity to do so.

srebbe64

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Friday 20th May 2005
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los angeles said:
He did attempt a "debate" of sorts with his Democrat opposite during the election. Trouble was, our fearless intellectual statesman was wearing a hidden radio receiver and ear piece. And they still voted him in!

Yeah, I remember that. In future, wouldn't it be great for a hacker to get onto the same wavelength and start feeding him a load of old random cobblers and see what he does?

ledger

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312 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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los angeles said:
He did attempt a "debate" of sorts with his Democrat opposite during the election. Trouble was, our fearless intellectual statesman was wearing a hidden radio receiver and ear piece. And they still voted him in!


that can't be true surely ?. Was this widely reported at the time ?.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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ledger said:
that can't be true surely ?. Was this widely reported at the time ?.
Yes, and indeed yes

Suckmychrsitmas

654 posts

258 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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I'd like to see Paxman interview Bush (tear him a new a**hole . . . or should that be "corn shoot"?) but there is no way that's going to happen, more's the pity.

branflakes

2,039 posts

267 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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How about sending all the Chavs to Los Angeles? Preferably the South Central part

branflakes

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267 months

Friday 20th May 2005
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los angeles said:
Hey, give us a break! Mind you, they'd soon be sorted out by the Latino and Korean gangs.


For some reason, I've just had a mental image of your South Central region - I think I need help