Please ensure you’re insured!
Please ensure you’re insured!
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Tony1963

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5,808 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th April 2019
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Don't worry, I don’t have a take of woe to share. However, at home insurance renewal last month I was asked to provide a professional valuation of my stainless Daytona as it had gone over £10k value. Just after that communication, a family member had his 2012 GMT II stolen, and it was only covered for the price paid when new. Ouch.
Anyway, my watch was ready for collection yesterday, and even in its “wear commensurate with its age” state, the value was given as another £2k over my top estimate. Shocked.

I called the insurance company this morning and it works out at about £3 per month extra, then I upped the total contents insured, and covered the watch for outside the house, £14 per month extra. Bargain.

I can relax now smile

TheAngryDog

12,800 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th April 2019
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My most expensive watch is covered up to its purchase price as I very much doubt it'll ever gain any value. It is also insured away from the home. It's daft not to and barely costs anything to do.

shopper150

1,583 posts

216 months

Saturday 6th April 2019
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Would insurers pay out ‘’market price” when the list price is much lower (despite being not easy to get hold of)?

Tony1963

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5,808 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th April 2019
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shopper150 said:
Would insurers pay out ‘’market price” when the list price is much lower (despite being not easy to get hold of)?
The valuer has given it the cost to replace like for like. The insurer accepts this as the item’s value. Make it clear with the insurance company. The valuation certificate also makes it clear that it’s no longer in production (116520) so it’s not even a matter of waiting for one at ‘list’.

GC8

19,910 posts

212 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Because you can always revert to indemnity and this will be it’s used value.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

236 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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My home insurance is paying out 3800 quid to repair my submariner which needed a new case. The insurance premium is the best money Ive spent in a while.

Bobajobbob

1,559 posts

118 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Is your Daytona a Zenith? I’m curious as to current values as I have a black one.

Tony1963

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5,808 posts

184 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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anonymous said:
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They valued it at £15k. Wear etc as expected for a six year old watch that spends time on a wrist.

Edit: includes box and all papers.

Edited by Tony1963 on Tuesday 9th April 08:04

Tony1963

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5,808 posts

184 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Bobajobbob said:
Is your Daytona a Zenith? I’m curious as to current values as I have a black one.
No, it’s a 116520 with the in-house movement. Black face.

davek_964

10,609 posts

197 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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What did the valuation cost?

My home insurance is due for renewal, and Hiscox have increased the premium by a huge amount so I need to shop around. Problem is, my Daytona is pretty much identical to yours (black face SS, 5.5 years old, box and papers) so I guess it's similar value. At least Direct Line told me anything > £10k needs valuing (although they were just as expensive as Hiscox anyway so there would be no point moving).

Tony1963

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5,808 posts

184 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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For the valuation by a registered valuer, including a thorough report with photos and even a statement about it being no longer being in production, £78 incl vat.
I had planned to drop it off with Goldsmiths in Bury St Eds at an agreed time, but they weren’t open, so I went to Thurlow Champness instead.

And I tell you what, the Rolex displays were looking a little sad! One of the guys there built up a collection of Rolexes before prices went silly. He brings them in sometimes for potential customers to get at least some idea what they look like on the wrist!


jshell

11,908 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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boy said:
My home insurance is paying out 3800 quid to repair my submariner which needed a new case. The insurance premium is the best money Ive spent in a while.
Does it get a new serial number or do they add the original one?

jmandkm

5 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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Hi, who did you get your insurance through?

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

236 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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jmandkm said:
Hi, who did you get your insurance through?
Avila cover my house and contents.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

236 months

Tuesday 14th May 2019
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jshell said:
Does it get a new serial number or do they add the original one?
Do you know I’m not sure now. I’d assumed it had the same serial number on.

davek_964

10,609 posts

197 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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boy said:
jmandkm said:
Hi, who did you get your insurance through?
Avila cover my house and contents.
That's who I've just switched to (from Hiscox). Didn't require a valuation, but I feel happier getting one for both of my watches - will make it much easier if I am unfortunate enough to need to claim (especially given the increase in the value of the Daytona since I bought it).

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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davek_964 said:
boy said:
jmandkm said:
Hi, who did you get your insurance through?
Avila cover my house and contents.
That's who I've just switched to (from Hiscox). Didn't require a valuation, but I feel happier getting one for both of my watches - will make it much easier if I am unfortunate enough to need to claim (especially given the increase in the value of the Daytona since I bought it).
I just needed to have my high value stuff listed individually at the policy inception. I think they only cover up to 10k on each listed item on the standard policy though. Might be worth checking as your daytona will be over that I imagine. When I needed to claim it was very straight forward and resolved quickly by a specialist jewelry assessor, I just sent them the quote rolex had given me and the repair was authorised in less than a week. All I paid was the policy excess on collection.

davek_964

10,609 posts

197 months

Wednesday 15th May 2019
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boy said:
davek_964 said:
boy said:
jmandkm said:
Hi, who did you get your insurance through?
Avila cover my house and contents.
That's who I've just switched to (from Hiscox). Didn't require a valuation, but I feel happier getting one for both of my watches - will make it much easier if I am unfortunate enough to need to claim (especially given the increase in the value of the Daytona since I bought it).
I just needed to have my high value stuff listed individually at the policy inception. I think they only cover up to 10k on each listed item on the standard policy though. Might be worth checking as your daytona will be over that I imagine. When I needed to claim it was very straight forward and resolved quickly by a specialist jewelry assessor, I just sent them the quote rolex had given me and the repair was authorised in less than a week. All I paid was the policy excess on collection.
The Rolex is a listed item at £15k. I think it's a standard policy but might not be I guess. But I did check the paperwork and it's covered - just think I'd sleep easier at night having a recent valuation.

jshell

11,908 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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boy said:
jshell said:
Does it get a new serial number or do they add the original one?
Do you know I’m not sure now. I’d assumed it had the same serial number on.
I checked with Rolex St J and it's a new number which is gonna batter the residuals!

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th May 2019
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jshell said:
boy said:
jshell said:
Does it get a new serial number or do they add the original one?
Do you know I’m not sure now. I’d assumed it had the same serial number on.
I checked with Rolex St J and it's a new number which is gonna batter the residuals!
Ummmm didn't realise that and i'm not too happy about it.