Ford Galaxy boat engine
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Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Hello hello , new member here so feel free to abuse ,
Building a houseboat and have a rust retired 51 plate 1.9 TDI with brand new clutch , would like to remove engine and use to power two props as its twin hulled cat , also to back up solar power battery system
Want the option of running the props from the batteries , and also drive a lathe and other tools any comments including jokes be great

I know their are easier routes to take but life's more fun this way

crofty1984

16,940 posts

228 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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So you can run the pros with electric motors? I'd set it up as a generator and keep the propulsion 100% electric. That said, you can get ready-made gen sets so it knackers your idea of using the ford engine!

JB!

5,255 posts

204 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Shouldn't be that hard. You'll need an adapter to your generator at the flywheel or gearbox, immobiliser defeat, custom loom...

Boatbuoy

1,972 posts

186 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Some more info would be useful:

1) Where do you intend to keep/use this boat (salt/fresh/brackish water)?

2) How fast do you intend to go?

Womblejohn

Original Poster:

17 posts

84 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Im semi retired plasterer but have always built or fixed anything , originally elect mech engineering. Was intending buying scrap outboards want option of connecting to electric motor or engine via gearbox , don't want fully rely on solar as I'm going to move up and down river with no mooring , solar on its own is a bit impractical , may want to cruise long distances , fresh water
Boat to be min 10 m length
Got an electric boat motor and its impressive but long term I'm not so sure , also like to build my own things , life's more fun
The engine is really for back up but I will give me a versatile power source , cheers for the interest , learning to navigate the forum was my first hurdle as I didn't know my post had been moved lol
Also I'm into recycling , not tight just like to build something that suits me and that I can fix and adapt , engine is sound , always serviced and treated with care , hate to scrap it , yes could choose a smaller engine but its their and I know its going to last , cheers for your interest , John

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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So , in my charge ahead approach to life I'm planning to remove the engine with necessary bits attached , probably with an angle grinder if necessary lol , anything come to mind that I should be careful with to be kept intact , want to avoid limp mode if I can , cheers
Anyone want any bits for free before it goes to the scrappy, I'm in wyboston Bedfordshire

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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The key is likely coded as part of the immobiliser system so you will need the code reader ring from the column and all the immobiliser boxes and ecu but that's just for starters. Best you get onto a Ford forum and see if someone can what else matters. You may find it also wants to see gearbox sensors as well.

Did an engine swap on a BMW which did not run without the original lights switch which was both VIN coded and recorded the vehicle mileage...go figure.

Steve

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Many thanks , hence the angle grinder approach , cut away without disconnecting anything , was keeping the steering wheel , dash , pedals , gearstick fuel tank etc don't think I need the air bags lol

Krikkit

27,842 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Sounds daft, but you might be able to get all the immobiliser and other gubbins mapped out of the engine ECU.

Sometimes it can even be as simple as snipping a pin on the IC, disconnecting an immobiliser controller while running or some other simple bypass.

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Maybe but as I can use everything and am scrapping thought the direct approach with an angle grinder should eliminate mistakes by disconnecting anything , the mapping did cross my mind as the engine is well overpowered for cruising at about 5 mph probably on Rickover but like the gearbox for other applications , who knows what I might want to run off it , lathe and wood saw for sure , a few alternator's for welding , shower , hot water tank for heat storage etc

Scrump

23,780 posts

182 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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As your boat is a catamaran I think you are going to find it difficult to connect both shafts to the single engine via a gearbox.
The use of electric motors on each shaft and then using the diesel as a generator would be easier to physically fit in the boat but it brings the need to convert the galaxy engine into a generator and adding in a control system. As crofty said before, you may be better off buying a ready made genset.

crofty1984

16,940 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Also, you'll need to replace the rad with a water/water heat exchanger and associated coldwater pump. I'm all for crazy ideas but this sounds like its so, so much work for no benefit when there are better pre-made solutions out there. But good luck if you're determined to, I'm not saying it can't be done.

GliderRider

2,860 posts

105 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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A hydraulic pump on the engine output, with a hydraulic motor on each prop, would be another way of doing it. You could then have a second hydraulic pump on an electric motor for running on battery poweronly . Not so efficient as pure diesel electric, but may be cheaper to do if you can source second hand pumps and motors.

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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Can't reply in evening as am new member , understandable due to trolls
Will do a sketch to show you where my thoughts lie , and will try to put a link on if that's possible , not that good at typing as I get a bit lost with direction , at work , be back later cheers

gordmac

83 posts

159 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Some boats have a hydrostatic drive allowing the engine to be placed somewhere convenient. This might work for you.

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Sorry for the delay , new member was unable to post in evening , ok now ,
all valid thoughts from you all , but life's fun taking the hard route
I intend on one prop salvaged from a deceased outboard as the main thrust
I haven't much idea how to control the diff but here's a sketch


Scrump

23,780 posts

182 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Is the prop going to be on the centreline?

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Middle, between two hulls , will make bow thrusters at four corners , strictly 12 v

Womblejohn

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17 posts

84 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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The reason for four is if I'm up against bank

Scrump

23,780 posts

182 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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If the centre of your boat is high above the water then you are going to have a very steep shaft angle and/or have the prop a long way aft of the stern. You will also potentially have a long length of unsupported shaft.