911 T Or T/E?

[POORCARDEALER]

I am going to buy an old 72/73 2.4 911...am I right in saying that a "T" model is on carbs and a T/E is CIS fuel injection...if so how much power do both of these cars produce(both USA LHD) and what is the CIS like to maintain and which is the most tunable and which is going to be the better drive?
Matt

[ICSD]

I happen to have my Red Book next to me and this is what states.

US T cars had fuel injection while other countries did not so the list of horsepowers is as follows:-

911T except US - 130 @ 5600rpm
911T US - 140 @ 5600rpm
911E - 165 @ 6200rpm
911S - 190 @ 6500rpm

Hope that helps.

>> Edited by ICSD on Friday 20th May 17:40

[POORCARDEALER]

that does help thanks.

[ninemeister]

The CIS car will return 50% better fuel economy, but original parts for these systems are hard to find so make sure that it is running correctly.

[POORCARDEALER]

Thanks nine, wondered about the parts situation, do many of these cars end up back on carbs?

[rubystone]

Don't forget that '73 was a changeover year in the US Ts - the '72 cars used essentially the injection from the E and S, but in '73 CIS came in for the T. No difference in bhp though. The compression ratio was lower in the T too, as compared to the E and S and IIRC some of the components in the T were not as highly specced as in the S.

I'm pretty sure that unlike the earlier engines, the T had a close spec to the E and S, but I'm sure someone will confirm that fact on here (the 2 litre T had cast iron cylinders and a crank made from old bean cans).

[POORCARDEALER]

as an "S" is such an expensive car to buy now, I thought I would buy a T or a T/E and uprate it eventually powerwise....I have a pair of original "S" seats from a 2.4 car that have been gathering dust for 10 years so they can go in too.

[rubystone]

I think that's a good idea. The absolute key of course is to make sure the tub and body are as perfect as you can get them. Having restored one of these back in 1989, I was astounded at the amount of rot that had taken hold in a number of areas (and bear in mind the fact that my car was then 16 years younger than it would be now).

When I bought the car I thought I might be able to salvage the doors and rear wings. In the end I replaced both rear wings, both front wings, the doors and bonnet. The only panels I was able to reuse were the bootlid and sunroof.

I looked at a 1967 2 litre a couple of months ago - the guy wanted £8k for it - silver with black interior, lhd. The car looked clean, but the panel gaps, whilst straight, were not crisp - a sure sign that the panels themselves had a fair skim of filler. In a couple of places the paint was cracking too and I decided that whilst it might sell for £10k, it might also sit around!

If you're buying an ex US car, that's no guarantee it came from a dry state - in fact the best clue to whether it lived in a hot area is the state of the dahshboard - these frequently crack from exposure to the sun around the vents for the screen.