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Passed by me too - nice to see so many bikes together.... not so nice followed the metric f
k tonnes of them home that are obviously not used to London riding... WAYYYYY too many wobblers at 2mph barely able to pass through gaps most regular commuters could fit two bikes and a fat sow between with room to spare!
Proper pissed me off enough that I ended up going down the inside on the A2 and clipped a wing mirror in the process! - obviously from the name I'm a harley rider.... but damn, 3/4 of these chaps were just dreadful riders with NO awareness what so ever despite their very nice, very shiney, very expensive custom cruisers!
k tonnes of them home that are obviously not used to London riding... WAYYYYY too many wobblers at 2mph barely able to pass through gaps most regular commuters could fit two bikes and a fat sow between with room to spare!Proper pissed me off enough that I ended up going down the inside on the A2 and clipped a wing mirror in the process! - obviously from the name I'm a harley rider.... but damn, 3/4 of these chaps were just dreadful riders with NO awareness what so ever despite their very nice, very shiney, very expensive custom cruisers!
neutral 3 said:
Missed this, what was the protest about ?
A former para being charged with murder over Bloody Sunday.I've not read enough about it, but it seems even the MOD are supporting the classic Eichmann defence:
Holocaust mass murderer said:
There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve as mere instruments in the hands of the leaders, I was not a responsible leader, and as such do not feel myself guilty.
The whole thing makes me uncomfortable.DirtyHarley said:
Passed by me too - nice to see so many bikes together.... not so nice followed the metric fk tonnes of them home that are obviously not used to London riding... WAYYYYY too many wobblers at 2mph barely able to pass through gaps most regular commuters could fit two bikes and a fat sow between with room to spare!
Proper pissed me off enough that I ended up going down the inside on the A2 and clipped a wing mirror in the process! - obviously from the name I'm a harley rider.... but damn, 3/4 of these chaps were just dreadful riders with NO awareness what so ever despite their very nice, very shiney, very expensive custom cruisers!
They were all so sk tonnes of them home that are obviously not used to London riding... WAYYYYY too many wobblers at 2mph barely able to pass through gaps most regular commuters could fit two bikes and a fat sow between with room to spare!Proper pissed me off enough that I ended up going down the inside on the A2 and clipped a wing mirror in the process! - obviously from the name I'm a harley rider.... but damn, 3/4 of these chaps were just dreadful riders with NO awareness what so ever despite their very nice, very shiney, very expensive custom cruisers!
t at spacial awareness, but you clipped a wing mirror. A painful irony there... or am I due a parrot?DirtyHarley said:
Passed by me too - nice to see so many bikes together.... not so nice followed the metric fk tonnes of them home that are obviously not used to London riding... WAYYYYY too many wobblers at 2mph barely able to pass through gaps most regular commuters could fit two bikes and a fat sow between with room to spare!
Proper pissed me off enough that I ended up going down the inside on the A2 and clipped a wing mirror in the process! - obviously from the name I'm a harley rider.... but damn, 3/4 of these chaps were just dreadful riders with NO awareness what so ever despite their very nice, very shiney, very expensive custom cruisers!
They were all so sk tonnes of them home that are obviously not used to London riding... WAYYYYY too many wobblers at 2mph barely able to pass through gaps most regular commuters could fit two bikes and a fat sow between with room to spare!Proper pissed me off enough that I ended up going down the inside on the A2 and clipped a wing mirror in the process! - obviously from the name I'm a harley rider.... but damn, 3/4 of these chaps were just dreadful riders with NO awareness what so ever despite their very nice, very shiney, very expensive custom cruisers!
t at spacial awareness, but you clipped a wing mirror. A painful irony there... or am I due a parrot?Pothole said:
neutral 3 said:
Missed this, what was the protest about ?
A former para being charged with murder over Bloody Sunday.I've not read enough about it, but it seems even the MOD are supporting the classic Eichmann defence:
Holocaust mass murderer said:
There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve as mere instruments in the hands of the leaders, I was not a responsible leader, and as such do not feel myself guilty.
The whole thing makes me uncomfortable.ked-up ex-forces guys).To a man they defended the actions of the soldiers that day but nearly all criticised their commanders who either pussy-footed around confrontational situations and put their men in danger or went "breengeing in to crack heads" and "teach those dirty Catholics a lesson. "
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te situation, and I can only express sympathy both for those who lost loved ones and an elderly man left hung out to dry.Stuart70 said:
They were all so st at spacial awareness, but you clipped a wing mirror. A painful irony there... or am I due a parrot?
So good you said it twice t at spacial awareness, but you clipped a wing mirror. A painful irony there... or am I due a parrot?
Full context - I went down the inside to get past them, a Dacia pulled left to give more room to the wobblers squeezing my space tight leading to a clip fo wing mirrors. Accept it's mostly my fault for going down the inside where drivers dont expect you, but was desperate to get past the wobblers or else my normal 1.5 hour ride home would have been nearer 3hours with the super slow filtering.
Pothole said:
neutral 3 said:
Missed this, what was the protest about ?
A former para being charged with murder over Bloody Sunday.I've not read enough about it, but it seems even the MOD are supporting the classic Eichmann defence:
Holocaust mass murderer said:
There is a need to draw a line between the leaders responsible and the people like me forced to serve as mere instruments in the hands of the leaders, I was not a responsible leader, and as such do not feel myself guilty.
The whole thing makes me uncomfortable.On the one hand you have a sustained pattern of evil behaviour which contributed towards the deaths of millions. On the other hand you have a one-off "heat of the moment" incident. They aren't comparable.
The UK seems to be exceptional in terms of the standards it holds the military to. In principle I don't think that's a bad thing but in this case i think it's bonkers.
It is also the doube standards that are at play here, I am an ex squaddie although plenty too young for Northern Ireland although my uncle was out there in the 70's. We are held in high regard around the world because of the standards that we hold as forces personnel and if mistakes, or bad apples are found then they are investigated and punished if appropriate.
What is a bit off is putting an oap on trial, for an event that happened decades ago, in a situation that has no direct comparison or experience while those from the IRA and it's offshoots have been released from prison or sent letters telling them not to worry about the past, they are immune from prosecution
What is a bit off is putting an oap on trial, for an event that happened decades ago, in a situation that has no direct comparison or experience while those from the IRA and it's offshoots have been released from prison or sent letters telling them not to worry about the past, they are immune from prosecution
As a serving soldier (and a veteran of operations in NI) I chose not to attend due to the political nature of the protest. It's the exact sort of thing that questionable groups like to grab on to, to push their own agenda.
I completely agree that we, as serving soldiers, should be held to a high standard of behaviour. Where I do find issue is when people are dragged over the coals years and years down the line in questionable prosecutions which are designed to appease certain sectors of the community. Soldier F made a split second decision in a high pressure situation.
Many young men have had to make similar calls in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years and some have already been subjected to hell via Phil Shiner and other proven liars. Something that can only be understood by people who have had to make the call to shoot or not, is that we make a judgement call in an instant that people have years to tear apart. Ultimately it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
I completely agree that we, as serving soldiers, should be held to a high standard of behaviour. Where I do find issue is when people are dragged over the coals years and years down the line in questionable prosecutions which are designed to appease certain sectors of the community. Soldier F made a split second decision in a high pressure situation.
Many young men have had to make similar calls in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years and some have already been subjected to hell via Phil Shiner and other proven liars. Something that can only be understood by people who have had to make the call to shoot or not, is that we make a judgement call in an instant that people have years to tear apart. Ultimately it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
DuncsGTi said:
As a serving soldier (and a veteran of operations in NI) I chose not to attend due to the political nature of the protest. It's the exact sort of thing that questionable groups like to grab on to, to push their own agenda.
I completely agree that we, as serving soldiers, should be held to a high standard of behaviour. Where I do find issue is when people are dragged over the coals years and years down the line in questionable prosecutions which are designed to appease certain sectors of the community. Soldier F made a split second decision in a high pressure situation.
Many young men have had to make similar calls in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years and some have already been subjected to hell via Phil Shiner and other proven liars. Something that can only be understood by people who have had to make the call to shoot or not, is that we make a judgement call in an instant that people have years to tear apart. Ultimately it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
Well said, i think the whole thing is a farce it happened in the 70s 40 years ago, there are more pressing things to be sorted by our incompetent government. I completely agree that we, as serving soldiers, should be held to a high standard of behaviour. Where I do find issue is when people are dragged over the coals years and years down the line in questionable prosecutions which are designed to appease certain sectors of the community. Soldier F made a split second decision in a high pressure situation.
Many young men have had to make similar calls in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years and some have already been subjected to hell via Phil Shiner and other proven liars. Something that can only be understood by people who have had to make the call to shoot or not, is that we make a judgement call in an instant that people have years to tear apart. Ultimately it's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
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