Albon or Kvyat, and when?
Discussion
37chevy said:
Will be Albon, but don’t write Pierre of yet. I think he’s a talented kid but just isn’t clicking with the red bull for what ever reason. Despite being off the pace he still maximised what red bull could have hoped for today
He needs time whereas Kvyat looked like he needed time, space, a brain and someone else's limbs.
Is Riccardo on a multi year contract at Renault? If not, they could have him back! His Renault contract may forbid that though..
Personally, I always thought he could compete with max when it came to podiums and points. It only went wrong when they competed directly with one another.
All the poor sod ever wanted was a red bull that didn't implode every race. And now red bull have that. And ironically, Renault do not.
Personally, I always thought he could compete with max when it came to podiums and points. It only went wrong when they competed directly with one another.
All the poor sod ever wanted was a red bull that didn't implode every race. And now red bull have that. And ironically, Renault do not.
TheDeuce said:
Is Riccardo on a multi year contract at Renault? If not, they could have him back! His Renault contract may forbid that though..
Personally, I always thought he could compete with max when it came to podiums and points. It only went wrong when they competed directly with one another.
All the poor sod ever wanted was a red bull that didn't implode every race. And now red bull have that. And ironically, Renault do not.
Personally, I always thought he could compete with max when it came to podiums and points. It only went wrong when they competed directly with one another.
All the poor sod ever wanted was a red bull that didn't implode every race. And now red bull have that. And ironically, Renault do not.
If only, I really like DR and I think deep down he realises Renault will not get him to where he wants to be.
Nickp82 said:
TheDeuce said:
Is Riccardo on a multi year contract at Renault? If not, they could have him back! His Renault contract may forbid that though..
Personally, I always thought he could compete with max when it came to podiums and points. It only went wrong when they competed directly with one another.
All the poor sod ever wanted was a red bull that didn't implode every race. And now red bull have that. And ironically, Renault do not.
Personally, I always thought he could compete with max when it came to podiums and points. It only went wrong when they competed directly with one another.
All the poor sod ever wanted was a red bull that didn't implode every race. And now red bull have that. And ironically, Renault do not.
If only, I really like DR and I think deep down he realises Renault will not get him to where he wants to be.
But let's get real, it's a pipe dream. I'm sure his contract will rule out going back to a previous team within a certain number of years. Otherwise drivers could be let go for a year simply to get the inside track on a competing team...
A nice thought though, sadly even my loose grasp of common sense tells me it's hugely improbable.
TheDeuce said:
I understand why he took the chance, the gamble on Renault was better than the then certainty of being #2 at red bull. But now he knows Renault can't offer what he hoped.. and I don't see where else he could go that would be any better, other than red bull. I can't see who else red bull could have that's better suited either.
But let's get real, it's a pipe dream. I'm sure his contract will rule out going back to a previous team within a certain number of years. Otherwise drivers could be let go for a year simply to get the inside track on a competing team...
A nice thought though, sadly even my loose grasp of common sense tells me it's hugely improbable.
given daniel was a big signing that I gather surprised the renault people themselves, plus he's a canny operator, I'd hope/expect he has a contract with an awful lot in his favour.But let's get real, it's a pipe dream. I'm sure his contract will rule out going back to a previous team within a certain number of years. Otherwise drivers could be let go for a year simply to get the inside track on a competing team...
A nice thought though, sadly even my loose grasp of common sense tells me it's hugely improbable.
Teddy Lop said:
given daniel was a big signing that I gather surprised the renault people themselves, plus he's a canny operator, I'd hope/expect he has a contract with an awful lot in his favour.
I'd hope so too. I hope his own people made sure he wasn't headed down an irreversible path.Beyond that, the money - no doubt he's fine in that respect! Although I'm pretty certain he already had all that he needs in life anyway. Financially speaking.
I just want to see the king of comebacks and overtaking race in a viable car. In many ways, at red bull, he was the most exciting driver in this era.
In an alternate universe some place he replaced bottas or vettel and I imagine, in that universe, F1 will be having a very exciting season as a result.
Some Gump said:
Bloody kvyat. They'd be mental to up him to red bull, even if Albon lacks experience.
Tricky one, Max has probably crashed more times, albeit generally without taking everyone out of the race...Plus Albon gave it far too much boot at the last corner and totalled his car. At least Gasly hasn't ruined his or another drivers' race by being impetuous, you could argue slow and steady is what is needed here to gain the experience in the car....
rallycross said:
He finished 6th in China, behind to Mercedes, 2 Ferrari's and his team mate - why would you expect him to do any better in his first year in the Red Bull?
If we ignore his pit stop, how far behind was he? His team mate that is. Need to discount 3-4 seconds as well due to fresh boots in fairness.....That being said, I was supporting Gasly......
Edited by Jasandjules on Monday 15th April 12:05
Jasandjules said:
If we ignore his pit stop, how far behind was he? His team mate that is. Need to discount 3-4 seconds as well due to fresh boots in fairness.....
That being said, I was supporting Gasly......
I think he was a minute behind his team mate, so 1 second a lap, but there may be reasons for such a big gap, I think him and CLC both did a great job last year and deserve to be in the teams they are in this year. That being said, I was supporting Gasly......
Edited by Jasandjules on Monday 15th April 12:05
Red Bull is a bit of a poisoned chalice though with being teamed up with the boy wonder its going to be a tough year for him.
Jasandjules said:
Some Gump said:
Bloody kvyat. They'd be mental to up him to red bull, even if Albon lacks experience.
Tricky one, Max has probably crashed more times, albeit generally without taking everyone out of the race...Plus Albon gave it far too much boot at the last corner and totalled his car. At least Gasly hasn't ruined his or another drivers' race by being impetuous, you could argue slow and steady is what is needed here to gain the experience in the car....
TheDeuce said:
Teddy Lop said:
given daniel was a big signing that I gather surprised the renault people themselves, plus he's a canny operator, I'd hope/expect he has a contract with an awful lot in his favour.
I'd hope so too. I hope his own people made sure he wasn't headed down an irreversible path.Beyond that, the money - no doubt he's fine in that respect! Although I'm pretty certain he already had all that he needs in life anyway. Financially speaking.
I just want to see the king of comebacks and overtaking race in a viable car. In many ways, at red bull, he was the most exciting driver in this era.
In an alternate universe some place he replaced bottas or vettel and I imagine, in that universe, F1 will be having a very exciting season as a result.
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