Oxford Hardy or Richa Scrambler or Other wax jacket

[wilbo83]

Would like to get a wax jacket with budget of £200 so currently considering the two in the title, but also open to other recommendations.

Does anyone have either of these and care to share their thoughts? Any others with similar styling that I should consider in this budget?

The Richa scrambler looks to have a buckle neck fastening which I can imagine will be pretty difficult with gloves on.

Oxford Hardy:


Richa Scrambler:

[andburg]

Take a look at the chesterfield motorcycles outlet o nebay, quite a few styles for the money

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/cmcbikesuk/Jackets-Text...

[anonymous-user]

Check out Merlin too, they make some nice jackets.

The Sandon (now discontinued but a few on eBay):


The Anson:


The Barton:

[mad4amanda]

I have used Oxford stuff for the last 2 years and for the price its brilliant , I like the Hardy wax but for now need a longer jacket so have the Bradwell its very good and I like the no quibble approach to the warranty I had a tab on the liner break took it back given a new one there and then . Cant do that with an Ebay jacket.
Bought a Mondial laminate Jacket in January and it is amazing for £250 they used to be £500+ from Halvarssons and Rukka totally waterproof only issue I had was finding one.

[BowieMS]

I tried on a few of the Merlin waxed jackets when I was on the lookout for a new summer/classic looking jacket. I ended up buying a Merlin Lichfield (leather jacket) that is great and very well put together, so although they are at the cheaper end I have no doubt they make good stuff. The waxed ones I tried (from a quick google I think the Yoxall, Atlow and Armitage) didn't seem quite as high quality as their leather stuff, and on me at least the sizing was a bit variable - in particular the sleeves seemed to either be way short or way long. But if they'd fitted me properly I'd have been more inclined to go with them than the Oxford, Richa or Spada ones I tried, which I didn't rate at all. My wife's also had a waxed Oxford jacket which has been rubbish, which puts me off them a bit. Other than the Merlin ones the only textile jacket I was tempted by that day was a Roland Sands, for a lot more money (and without armour supplied). If you like your motobloggers I know there's a video from Missenden Flyer where he quite highly rates his Oxford waxed jacket though, and I generally agree with his reviews.

I'd say go try a few of the Merlin ones on and see if you get on with the fit.

[mel]

Claymore

Absolutely nothing else comes close, you’ll get the jacket you really want and it’ll be a perfect fit because it’ll be made for you. Everything else is like comparing Savile Row with M&S the difference is that big.

http://www.claymorejackets.co.uk/

[SAS Tom]

mel said:

Claymore

Absolutely nothing else comes close, you’ll get the jacket you really want and it’ll be a perfect fit because it’ll be made for you. Everything else is like comparing Savile Row with M&S the difference is that big.

http://www.claymorejackets.co.uk/

That’s all well and good but are they even actual bike jackets? They appear to just be normal jackets with no thought as to how they would perform in a crash.

OP I would say that the Richa would be better quality than the Oxford but as others have mentioned the Merlin jackets are really good and would be my pick.

Personally I can’t stand that horrible waxy feeling.

[mel]

SAS Tom said:

mel said:

Claymore

Absolutely nothing else comes close, you’ll get the jacket you really want and it’ll be a perfect fit because it’ll be made for you. Everything else is like comparing Savile Row with M&S the difference is that big.

http://www.claymorejackets.co.uk/

That’s all well and good but are they even actual bike jackets? They appear to just be normal jackets with no thought as to how they would perform in a crash.

OP I would say that the Richa would be better quality than the Oxford but as others have mentioned the Merlin jackets are really good and would be my pick.

Personally I can’t stand that horrible waxy feeling.

I’ve spent over 30 years riding across all styles and disciplines and I’ve always worn the highest quality gear I could afford. I can say without any hesitation that Claymore jackets are made and constructed to be ridden in. The stitching, material, design and workmanship puts them head and shoulders above any of the so called premium brands and the level of service from one man in a shed in Yorkshire is exceptional (expect 6-8 weeks lead time though) he is always busy but Refuses to compromise in any area, nor sell in any other way than directly to end users,


I was actually put in touch with him by a friend who I would consider the font of all knowledge for all things motorcycle clothing, he’d spent years researching, and interviewing key people in both sport and industry for his PhD at The London College of Fashion (which was all based around the culture and history of motorcycle clothing from 50’s Rockers to hi tech one piece race suits) and pops up on tele’ every now and again as the go to “industry expert” (and sometimes on here) I consider my experience on and around bikes and bike clothing to be pretty good, I consider his as gospel in particular for clothing.

Over the last few years I’ve ended up with both Summer and Winter Claymore’s and for that style and type of jacket I wouldn’t now consider anything else.

Edited by mel on Friday 19th April 06:18

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wilbo83 said:

Would like to get a wax jacket with budget of £200 so currently considering the two in the title, but also open to other recommendations.

RST do a few and are a fair bit cheaper. I’ve got the longer version of this and can’t really fault it:

https://www.rst-moto.com/rst-classic-iom-tt-short-...

[SAS Tom]

mel said:

I’ve spent over 30 years riding across all styles and disciplines and I’ve always worn the highest quality gear I could afford. I can say without any hesitation that Claymore jackets are made and constructed to be ridden in. The stitching, material, design and workmanship puts them head and shoulders above any of the so called premium brands and the level of service from one man in a shed in Yorkshire is exceptional (expect 6-8 weeks lead time though) he is always busy but Refuses to compromise in any area, nor sell in any other way than directly to end users,


I was actually put in touch with him by a friend who I would consider the font of all knowledge for all things motorcycle clothing, he’d spent years researching, and interviewing key people in both sport and industry for his PhD at The London College of Fashion (which was all based around the culture and history of motorcycle clothing from 50’s Rockers to hi tech one piece race suits) and pops up on tele’ every now and again as the go to “industry expert” (and sometimes on here) I consider my experience on and around bikes and bike clothing to be pretty good, I consider his as gospel in particular for clothing.

Over the last few years I’ve ended up with both Summer and Winter Claymore’s and for that style and type of jacket I wouldn’t now consider anything else.

Edited by mel on Friday 19th April 06:18

I think you’ve misunderstood what I’m asking, all you’ve said is a load of subjective stuff about the jacket and what your mate says.

What abrasion resistant materials are used in the jackets? What armour is used and what CE level is it rated to? Are there even pockets in the jackets for armour? What crash testing have the jackets been put through and how did they perform?

They appear to be fashion jackets and seem to be described as such. From what I’ve seen there is no mention of how they would perform in a crash.

[V1nce Fox]

I have a Belstaff Brooklands/Mojave wax. It's a cool thing to wear but if I'm doing anything more than bimbling I swap it out for a more sturdy jacket.

[mel]

SAS Tom said:

I think you’ve misunderstood what I’m asking, all you’ve said is a load of subjective stuff about the jacket and what your mate says.

What abrasion resistant materials are used in the jackets? What armour is used and what CE level is it rated to? Are there even pockets in the jackets for armour? What crash testing have the jackets been put through and how did they perform?

They appear to be fashion jackets and seem to be described as such. From what I’ve seen there is no mention of how they would perform in a crash.

Purchasing anything is absolutely your choice. If you're the kind of person that avoids Arai & Schuberth helmets because of their SHARP test results then I wouldn't bother including Claymore Jackets in your short list. If however you are the kind of person who is intelligent enough to make an informed and subjective choice based on a hands on examination, a feel of quality, a comparison between other products and an understanding of what areas of a motorcycle jacket receive the most stress in an atypical incident then they would be a good choice. Of course I am not suggesting they would make a suitable trackday choice, they may not be the most technical of jackets like a Rukka/Halvarssons/Stadler but for the type, style and price as requested by the OP I doubt you would find better.

As for testing, well it's a one man company based in a shed in Yorkshire who does no marketing and has a waiting list for his work. He has a lifetimes experience working for others and producing this type of clothing so has no need or desire to pay for testing, and besides it's a tailored product meaning each one is made for an individual so approval and testing would simply not be possible as they are all bespoke. However if you really want armour and CE marks then ask him for it, the joy of tailoring means you can have either his recommended high quality (Forcefield) armour or any other that you choose at the point of order and the joy is you'll get bespoke tailored armour pockets that hold it in place and fit rather than the universal loose pockets found in off the peg products where your elbow armour spins round as you slide down the road. It's all on his website under the section marked "Armour"

If you buy one or not I care not, and I doubt that Carl cares much as his waiting list is not getting any shorter. But to answer the OP's original question they would be a better choice than he quoted and can be fine tuned to give him what he really wants.