MCLAREN 650S SPIDER
MCLAREN 650S SPIDER
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GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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HAS ANYONE EXPERIENCED A PROBLEM WITH THE STEERING/ HANDLING ON THE 650S BEING VERY TWITCHY?
THE PROBLEM I HAVE WHEN DRIVING MINE IS IT TRAMLINES EXCESSIVELY AND PULLS LEFT OR RIGHT ON ANY UNDULATIONS ON THE ROAD SURFACE, TO THE POINT YOU REALLY HAVE TO HANG ONTO IT ON UNEVEN B ROADS.
PASSENGERS COMMENT ON THE FACT IT FEELS LIKE ITS DIVING ALL OVER THE ROAD.
TYRE WEAR IS EVEN AND ON SMOOTH ROADS ITS FINE.
THERE IS A VIBRATION LIKE WHEEL WOBBLE BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN UNTIL ABOUT 98 MPH SO SEEMS TO FAST FOR AN UNBALANCE WHEEL.
2016 CAR ONLY DONE 7K MILES STILL UNDER WARRANTEE.
HAS ANYONE HAD WARRANTEE WORK DONE FOR THIS TYPE OF FAULT?
MANY THANKS

12pack

1,668 posts

189 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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My 650s spider certainly tram lines less and self corrects far better than a V12 Vantage I also drive. OTOH if you’re used to a narrow-tired “normal” car you might have a different view. With relatively wide tires, tight suspension and direct steering, performance cars will experience some level of this.

Has this got worse over time? No harm in getting this checked out under warranty.

GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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ONLY HAD IT 8 MONTHS AND APPEARS TO BE THE SAME SINCE I GOT IT. I DROVE A 720S SPIDER RECENTLY AND IT WAS MASSIVELY BETTER. I TALKED TO ONE OF THE ENGINEERS ON THE DEMONSTRATION DAY AND HE EXPLAINED THE 720 IS A NEWER AND BETTER CHASSIS 2 SYSTEM, BUT ALSO COMMENTED THAT HE WOULDN'T EXPECT A 650 TO BE TOO BAD ESPECIALLY WHEN IN NORMAL MODE.

foxsasha

1,455 posts

156 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Get the wheel alignment checked.

993AL

1,939 posts

239 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Why are you shouting? biggrin

Wilmslowboy

4,623 posts

227 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Sounds wrong, I've done close to 10k miles in a combination of 12c and a 650s, and the road manners are some of the best in any car I've owned.

Sounds like tracking, tyres pressures or worse something is loose, see if you can drive someone else's or get it up on a ramp and have a prod around (getting geo sorted should spot any problems).


PS take off the 'cap lock' shout

BoxerF50

1,554 posts

212 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Definitely not right. Never had tram lining issues in the 650S Spider.

Hurri360

37 posts

96 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Does this happen on all roads or just B roads?
Had something similar when driving a 328 on roads which had been heavily used by heavy lorries.

GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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More pronounced on single carriageways especially noticeable when you overtake, where the centre of the road is cambered, as you seem to have to steer hard to get over the white lines then as you cross the centre of the road it dives to the right coming over the camber, especially if your accelerating. Definitely difficult to handle. Will have to contact dealer to see if its a possible warrantee issue.
Thanks for reply's apologies for caps lock, novice on here.

Oilchange

9,489 posts

281 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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If you have skinny front tyres ie not much sidewall then they are going to tramline, not much you can do about it other than avoid lane 1 on the motorway...

anonymous-user

75 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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foxsasha said:
Get the wheel alignment checked.
This. Specifically get the suspension geometry checked by a specialist.

GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th April 2019
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Thanks

duka

431 posts

241 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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what tyres?

12pack

1,668 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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GRD 8 said:
More pronounced on single carriageways especially noticeable when you overtake, where the centre of the road is cambered, as you seem to have to steer hard to get over the white lines then as you cross the centre of the road it dives to the right coming over the camber, especially if your accelerating. Definitely difficult to handle. Will have to contact dealer to see if its a possible warrantee issue.
Thanks for reply's apologies for caps lock, novice on here.
That really is not normal. Indeed time for a geometry reset.

GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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duka said:
what tyres?
Pzero corsa`s

GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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12pack said:
That really is not normal. Indeed time for a geometry reset.
Got car to Mclaren Bristol yesturday for them to check it out under warantee.
Took a test drive with their mechanic who said it didn't feel correct and may be down to geometry.
Just waiting their findings now as i have left it with them.

duka

431 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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GRD 8 said:
Pzero corsa`s
I never took to corsas, was like driving on marbles even at slow speed. Changed for std Pzeros & car was transformed into what it should be. Also had my geo-recalibrated.

GRD 8

Original Poster:

51 posts

87 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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duka said:
I never took to corsas, was like driving on marbles even at slow speed. Changed for std Pzeros & car was transformed into what it should be. Also had my geo-recalibrated.
Heard back from Mclaren today advising new tyres and geometry check, no fault found with car.
Only done 1500 miles on this set so not happy, albeit they were not new when i bought car from them 6 months ago.
Approved car so would not expect to be changing them yet.
Think i will take advise and go for the p zeros, just awaiting their reply.

gwp

174 posts

255 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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My 12C went twitchy over time, a full Geo at Centre Gravity got the car totally planted and a much more weighty feel as I wanted.
The vibration at that speed is tyre balance, usually takes them two or three attempts!!

foxsasha

1,455 posts

156 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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GRD 8 said:
Heard back from Mclaren today advising new tyres and geometry check, no fault found with car.
Only done 1500 miles on this set so not happy, albeit they were not new when i bought car from them 6 months ago.
Approved car so would not expect to be changing them yet.
Think i will take advise and go for the p zeros, just awaiting their reply.
New tyres won't cure the tramlining assuming even wear. Don't change them for that, it's just a gouging exercise. Just get the alignment done.