Daughter's new desktop

[anonymous-user]

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[Penelope Stopit]

Yes, your missing that an SSD is much faster than a HDD and has nothing to do with memory

Also dual boot is better than running Windows in a VM

[Gary C]

anonymous said:

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Yep, your right.

Page faults really slow down a computer.

[Penelope Stopit]

anonymous said:

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It doesn't matter how much memory is available, an SSD makes a massive difference

[Penelope Stopit]

anonymous said:

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SSD's really speed up computers

[thebraketester]

SSD vs HDD is night and day.

ps... why does she need a desktop if she has a macbook?

[Brainpox]

anonymous said:

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What kind of IT background do you come from?!?

[h0b0]

This thread is a bit toe curling. It's like I have missed an unfunny joke.

[snuffy]

My HDD :

My M.2 PCIe SSD:

My M.2 NVMe SSD:


I think we can conclude that's a massive difference in performance.

[Penelope Stopit]

h0b0 said:

This thread is a bit toe curling. It's like I have missed an unfunny joke.

Yes it must be a unfunny funny

Edited by Penelope Stopit on Sunday 21st April 17:00

[Penelope Stopit]

snuffy said:

My HDD :

My M.2 PCIe SSD:

My M.2 NVMe SSD:


I think we can conclude that's a massive difference in performance.

Nice, I was hoping a techie with proof would post

[Penelope Stopit]

Brainpox said:

anonymous said:

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What kind of IT background do you come from?!?

And the answer is?

[Gary C]

anonymous said:

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True, but large enough memory to stop excessive page faults will speed it up even more. That said, most computers have enough.

BTW, you do know what a page fault is ?

[Penelope Stopit]

Gary C said:

True, but large enough memory to stop excessive page faults will speed it up even more. That said, most computers have enough.

BTW, you do know what a page fault is ?

If you mean a Windows paging file, yes I have dabbled with altering the size in the past

[Gary C]

Penelope Stopit said:

Gary C said:

True, but large enough memory to stop excessive page faults will speed it up even more. That said, most computers have enough.

BTW, you do know what a page fault is ?

If you mean a Windows paging file, yes I have dabbled with altering the size in the past

A (hard) page fault is when the system needs to get a page of memory from the page file on the disk (be it SSD or HDD), with bigger main memory, you get less page faults so less disk access to that page file. Main memory is actually 10 times faster than an SSD so a soft page fault is quicker too.

Of course, most PCs have easily enough memory to handle the OS requirements but when you are marginal on memory, it doesnt half slow a machine down as each process wants access to its page only to find its not in memory, when its swapped into memory, something else is written to the page file on the disk, and you can end up with continuous disk activity as every process is causing a hard page fault which really slows things down

More likely to happen on an older PC with a newer OS.

But, I suppose your also right, in that as a SSD is much faster than a HDD, it really helps if the memory is marginal as the access to the pagefile is much faster.

Edited by Gary C on Sunday 21st April 18:27

[Deep Thought]

Gary C said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Gary C said:

True, but large enough memory to stop excessive page faults will speed it up even more. That said, most computers have enough.

BTW, you do know what a page fault is ?

If you mean a Windows paging file, yes I have dabbled with altering the size in the past

A (hard) page fault is when the system needs to get a page of memory from the page file on the disk (be it SSD or HDD), with bigger main memory, you get less page faults so less disk access to that page file. Main memory is actually 10 times faster than an SSD so a soft page fault is quicker too.

Of course, most PCs have easily enough memory to handle the OS requirements but when you are marginal on memory, it doesnt half slow a machine down as each process wants access to its page only to find its not in memory, when its swapped into memory, something else is written to the page file on the disk, and you can end up with continuous disk activity as every process is causing a hard page fault which really slows things down

More likely to happen on an older PC with a newer OS.

But, I suppose your also right, in that as a SSD is much faster than a HDD, it really helps if the memory is marginal as the access to the pagefile is much faster.

Edited by Gary C on Sunday 21st April 18:27

Win10 will run just fine with 4GB RAM for the vast majority of people's needs. "Marginal" memory for Win10 would be 3GB or less.

Irrespective it neednt be an either / or. Both RAM and SSDs are cheap enough the the O/P shouldnt have to compromise on either.

[snuffy]

I run VMs for work and running them off an SSD makes a massive difference compared to a HDD, it certainly the area I've noticed the biggest gain in .

[Penelope Stopit]

Gary C said:

Penelope Stopit said:

Gary C said:

True, but large enough memory to stop excessive page faults will speed it up even more. That said, most computers have enough.

BTW, you do know what a page fault is ?

If you mean a Windows paging file, yes I have dabbled with altering the size in the past

A (hard) page fault is when the system needs to get a page of memory from the page file on the disk (be it SSD or HDD), with bigger main memory, you get less page faults so less disk access to that page file. Main memory is actually 10 times faster than an SSD so a soft page fault is quicker too.

Of course, most PCs have easily enough memory to handle the OS requirements but when you are marginal on memory, it doesnt half slow a machine down as each process wants access to its page only to find its not in memory, when its swapped into memory, something else is written to the page file on the disk, and you can end up with continuous disk activity as every process is causing a hard page fault which really slows things down

More likely to happen on an older PC with a newer OS.

But, I suppose your also right, in that as a SSD is much faster than a HDD, it really helps if the memory is marginal as the access to the pagefile is much faster.

Thank you for the info

[CorradoTDI]

Have you thought about an external screen / KB and Mouse for the Macbook?

USB docking station is another good option and I'm fairly sure DisplayLink do a driver for OSX.

I guess if she's used to Linux fair enough but most jobs will expect experience of Windows as an OS.

[Deep Thought]

anonymous said:

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Ah that explains it then. Not hardware.