Discussion
Hi,
I've currently got Toyo t1r's on all 4 16" Estorils.
235/50 (rear)
225/50 (front)
Despite 2 recent geo setups and experimenting with tyre pressures, the ride feels crashy and hard. The steering feels too twitchy and needs far too much adjustment, especially at speed in a straight line.
Checking geo for a third time next week. Also going to try the rainsport 3 tyres on the front at the same size.
As tread is still very good on all tyres, I'm reluctant to change them all.
Any issues with keeping the Toyo's on the rear with the new rainsports on the front?
Would appreciate any feedback.
Jamie
I've currently got Toyo t1r's on all 4 16" Estorils.
235/50 (rear)
225/50 (front)
Despite 2 recent geo setups and experimenting with tyre pressures, the ride feels crashy and hard. The steering feels too twitchy and needs far too much adjustment, especially at speed in a straight line.
Checking geo for a third time next week. Also going to try the rainsport 3 tyres on the front at the same size.
As tread is still very good on all tyres, I'm reluctant to change them all.
Any issues with keeping the Toyo's on the rear with the new rainsports on the front?
Would appreciate any feedback.
Jamie
Thanks for your comments guys. Sounds like they're much more suited to the Griff/Chim than the Toyo.
Right, will crack on and get them on the front.
Not afraid to admit that I am a bit frugal and already spend far too much on the Griff (grief) as it is. Will do the rears at somepoint once I've done a few burnouts 😂
Right, will crack on and get them on the front.
Not afraid to admit that I am a bit frugal and already spend far too much on the Griff (grief) as it is. Will do the rears at somepoint once I've done a few burnouts 😂
Amazing what a difference it can make.
It just really shows how poor a choice we’ve had on tyres for a long time.
Having not driven mine for sometime it’s quite the revelation when you are reminded just how nicer it can be over bumps for one thing.
Not only are the tyres more upto date the whole car feels more sophisticated and modern in comparison to the old bone shaker I knew for years,,, a shed i think the term is commonly known as
Pure joy to drive really
It just really shows how poor a choice we’ve had on tyres for a long time.
Having not driven mine for sometime it’s quite the revelation when you are reminded just how nicer it can be over bumps for one thing.
Not only are the tyres more upto date the whole car feels more sophisticated and modern in comparison to the old bone shaker I knew for years,,, a shed i think the term is commonly known as

Pure joy to drive really

Griffith SE's run
245/40 x 16 on rear
225/45 x 16 on front
I've previously had them same combinations on a few griffiths that I've previously owned as above - no problems. But have also found that the wrong front tyre width and profile, can be affect how a car behaves especially on the rutted motorays (wanders a lot over the lane).
TVR Griffith Handbook states non PAS = 205/60
PAS = 225/50
245/40 x 16 on rear
225/45 x 16 on front
I've previously had them same combinations on a few griffiths that I've previously owned as above - no problems. But have also found that the wrong front tyre width and profile, can be affect how a car behaves especially on the rutted motorays (wanders a lot over the lane).
TVR Griffith Handbook states non PAS = 205/60
PAS = 225/50
I have just re shod my completely standard 500 with TR1's .
Early days, but on a recent Scottish trip with a mix of dry and wet weather I found them to be fine for my style of driving ( very measured).
I could not find any other manufacturer that supplied tyres to the original spec. i.e. 15" front, 16" rears with standard shocks/springs.
The ride quality has improved significantly being much softer and appreciably less banging and crashing over pot holes etc. whether that is due to the
different tyre design or the fact that the Bridgestone's were old I have no idea. They were also fine in the wet with no tendency to aquaplane on the motorway.
So completely satisfied with them!
Early days, but on a recent Scottish trip with a mix of dry and wet weather I found them to be fine for my style of driving ( very measured).
I could not find any other manufacturer that supplied tyres to the original spec. i.e. 15" front, 16" rears with standard shocks/springs.
The ride quality has improved significantly being much softer and appreciably less banging and crashing over pot holes etc. whether that is due to the
different tyre design or the fact that the Bridgestone's were old I have no idea. They were also fine in the wet with no tendency to aquaplane on the motorway.
So completely satisfied with them!
Most the complaints against T1R are probably the older ones, I think the newer ones are supposed to be better and possibly softer. It’s only when you get decent tyres do you realise how poor old ones are. Age probably has more to do with it than what brand.
A simple test is to go for a steady drive on dry roads, say 1/2 hr and then check the warmth of the tyres with your hand and they defo need to be warm.
I tried this with old T1R after 120 miles of driving at 70/80 mph and they were still cold!
Probably just gone off through lack of use but with a decent tyre mine now warm up very quickly and offer a lot more grip.
A simple test is to go for a steady drive on dry roads, say 1/2 hr and then check the warmth of the tyres with your hand and they defo need to be warm.
I tried this with old T1R after 120 miles of driving at 70/80 mph and they were still cold!
Probably just gone off through lack of use but with a decent tyre mine now warm up very quickly and offer a lot more grip.
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