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Gruffdiamond

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24 posts

124 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Hi,

I've currently got Toyo t1r's on all 4 16" Estorils.

235/50 (rear)
225/50 (front)

Despite 2 recent geo setups and experimenting with tyre pressures, the ride feels crashy and hard. The steering feels too twitchy and needs far too much adjustment, especially at speed in a straight line.

Checking geo for a third time next week. Also going to try the rainsport 3 tyres on the front at the same size.

As tread is still very good on all tyres, I'm reluctant to change them all.

Any issues with keeping the Toyo's on the rear with the new rainsports on the front?

Would appreciate any feedback.

Jamie

5.0ltr

2,825 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Dunno about your thoughts but Toyos and Bridgestones are a no go.

phazed

22,292 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Don’t be tight, renew the lot. T1Rs aren’t particularly good tyres and there’s a good chance that yours are several years old.

I recently changed all four tyres on my car and fitted a new set of Khumo Ecsta Something or other and the quality of the ride is transformed!

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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I drove mine for the first time in ages today and I love the Rainsport 3 tyres.
Transforms the ride, comfort and they grip like st to a blanket. biggrin

Gruffdiamond

Original Poster:

24 posts

124 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Thanks for your comments guys. Sounds like they're much more suited to the Griff/Chim than the Toyo.

Right, will crack on and get them on the front.

Not afraid to admit that I am a bit frugal and already spend far too much on the Griff (grief) as it is. Will do the rears at somepoint once I've done a few burnouts 😂

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

166 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Considering how long tyres can last on a Tvr I’d change all 4 Personally.
The Rainsport 3 are reasonably priced considering the difference they alone can make.

phazed

22,292 posts

221 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Exactly, my four Khumos were about £350 if I remember correctly.

Cheap for peace of mind and a quality ride.

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

166 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Amazing what a difference it can make.
It just really shows how poor a choice we’ve had on tyres for a long time.

Having not driven mine for sometime it’s quite the revelation when you are reminded just how nicer it can be over bumps for one thing.
Not only are the tyres more upto date the whole car feels more sophisticated and modern in comparison to the old bone shaker I knew for years,,, a shed i think the term is commonly known as biggrin
Pure joy to drive really wink

Gruffdiamond

Original Poster:

24 posts

124 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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Believe it or not, the Toyos on mine are only 2 years old with very few miles on them.

Take both your points though. Will probably go for all 4 for peace of mind. May have to wait a while though as it seems the rainsports in sizes I need are completely out of stock in the UK frown

phazed

22,292 posts

221 months

Sunday 28th April 2019
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I couldn't get Rainsports in my size, that's why I sourced the Khumos.

neutral 3

7,744 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Surprised re the hate for Toyo T-1Rs.
Any else have good or bad to say about them ?

neutral 3

7,744 posts

187 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Anyone ???

citizen smith

781 posts

198 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Griffith SE's run
245/40 x 16 on rear
225/45 x 16 on front

I've previously had them same combinations on a few griffiths that I've previously owned as above - no problems. But have also found that the wrong front tyre width and profile, can be affect how a car behaves especially on the rutted motorays (wanders a lot over the lane).

TVR Griffith Handbook states non PAS = 205/60
PAS = 225/50

Loubaruch

1,376 posts

215 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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I have just re shod my completely standard 500 with TR1's .

Early days, but on a recent Scottish trip with a mix of dry and wet weather I found them to be fine for my style of driving ( very measured).

I could not find any other manufacturer that supplied tyres to the original spec. i.e. 15" front, 16" rears with standard shocks/springs.

The ride quality has improved significantly being much softer and appreciably less banging and crashing over pot holes etc. whether that is due to the

different tyre design or the fact that the Bridgestone's were old I have no idea. They were also fine in the wet with no tendency to aquaplane on the motorway.


So completely satisfied with them!

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

166 months

Monday 6th May 2019
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Most the complaints against T1R are probably the older ones, I think the newer ones are supposed to be better and possibly softer. It’s only when you get decent tyres do you realise how poor old ones are. Age probably has more to do with it than what brand.

A simple test is to go for a steady drive on dry roads, say 1/2 hr and then check the warmth of the tyres with your hand and they defo need to be warm.
I tried this with old T1R after 120 miles of driving at 70/80 mph and they were still cold!

Probably just gone off through lack of use but with a decent tyre mine now warm up very quickly and offer a lot more grip.