Getting WiFi in outbuildings
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jimmy156

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3,835 posts

218 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Hello all,

We have summerhouse with power at the end of our garden that i am currently using to do a bit of work in, but i don't get a WiFi signal there. The summerhouse has power etc... is there any way to "extend" our signal so the WiFi can be accessed from there.

TIA
Jimmy

Amateurish

8,289 posts

253 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Powerline might work

SidJames

1,399 posts

264 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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You could try a wi-fi range extender in the shed, but it may only be marginally better than the built in wi-fi on the PC.

I put a splice in the power leading to my shed and put a wi-fi extender in a perspex box attached to my fence half way down. Works okay, and easier than running a network cable.

Funky Squirrel

494 posts

103 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Could you run a cable from your current router and install a second one in garage?

cRaigAl205

318 posts

154 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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I needed something similar and ended up using one of these, designed for getting wifi in a caravan. It isn't a hotspot/repeater, it plugs in via usb to a laptop, so no good for phones as well. I think they do a hotspot version, but its more money.

Surprisingly effective, finds neighbours networks I hadn't even seen in the house. It's fairly directional, but works ok for my use to the bottom of the garden.

https://www.primaleisure.com/product/1998535?gclid...


anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Works perfectly for me in the same situation - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Devolo-Powerline-Starter-...

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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Put one of these at each end and you'll have a full speed wifi link that works perfectly.

KuWFi 150Mbps WDS Wireless Bridge CPE waterproof Outdoor Point to Point Distance WiFi Wireless Access Point CPE

Or, as I did, one of those at one end and one of these at the other:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-CPE210-Outdoor-Ac...

i did that as I wanted PoE at one end, and 12v at the other.

IF, you can get plug in lan extenders (powerline) to work at that distance, great, go for that. Much cheaper and easier to setup

BonzoG

1,554 posts

245 months

Saturday 27th April 2019
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BT "Mini Home Hotspot" powerline extenders work perfectly for me in a similar scenario - detached garage with electricity supplied from the same fuse box as the house. Give them the same settings (SSID etc.) as the main network and everything just seamlessly roams between the two.

I've heard anecdotally if the outbuilding has its own fuse box, the extenders might not work - but I've never been able to test this.

Slushbox

1,484 posts

136 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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^^^

We get on OK with Powerline/Homeplug adapters across fuse boxes here, so the router lives in the main building, with TP-Link Powerline plugs across to a second cheap un-managed switch in the outbuilding.

I think Powerlines don't (didn't) work across buildings on different phases, but they do work across consumer units ('fuseboxes') on the same phase, cable length dependent.

These TP-link AV600 Powerlines provide wifi at the remote end, one plugs into the home ADSL/FTTH router and a mains socket, the other at the remote end to provide wifi.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WPA4220KIT-Powerline-B...

Hub

7,163 posts

229 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Devolo powerline adaptors work perfectly for me in this situation. The summerhouse power runs off a fuse box in the garage, but that fusebox is linked to the main house fusebox so not a completely different circuit.

durbster

12,135 posts

253 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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I've got a similar issue where the wifi from my current router barely reaches half way down the garden. My current solution is a second router in an outbuilding which extends the network OK, but it means having to switch between SSIDs as you walk down the garden so it isn't ideal.

I'm looking at mesh wifi solutions now, and trying to do the man-maths to justify the wince-inducing cost.

The Netgear Orbi looks great but is bloody expensive.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

217 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Excuse the random photo of the dog etc., at work and it's the best photo I could think of on my FB that illustrates it:



I have a (NetGear?) range extender in the conservatory which provides adequate wifi for browsing/emails in the summer house. Is that the sort of distance you are talking, or further?

rxe

6,700 posts

134 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Any decent AP with a moderately directional aerial will do 100 meters. I'm currently monitoring a barn owl box that is 200 meters from the house using a pair of Unifi Mesh APs, and some decent aerials. I get 160 Mbit on a clear day, and about 130 Mbit if it is raining.

Look up the broadcast pattern for the device you are currently using - it may be that simply turning it round to face the shed will make a difference.

BonzoG

1,554 posts

245 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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Slushbox said:
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I think Powerlines don't (didn't) work across buildings on different phases, but they do work across consumer units ('fuseboxes') on the same phase, cable length dependent.
That's good to know, and makes more sense than the fusebox anecdote I heard. Come to think of it, I did once try putting a powerline extender in a neighbour's flat so they could borrow ours when their internet was down. Despite being much closer than my garage is now, it didn't work, presumably because they were supplied from a different phase and/or behind a different meter.


JamesD74

245 posts

206 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Slushbox said:
^^^

We get on OK with Powerline/Homeplug adapters across fuse boxes here, so the router lives in the main building, with TP-Link Powerline plugs across to a second cheap un-managed switch in the outbuilding.

I think Powerlines don't (didn't) work across buildings on different phases, but they do work across consumer units ('fuseboxes') on the same phase, cable length dependent.

These TP-link AV600 Powerlines provide wifi at the remote end, one plugs into the home ADSL/FTTH router and a mains socket, the other at the remote end to provide wifi.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-WPA4220KIT-Powerline-B...
Just to say thank you for the above recommendation. Thought I would give this a try after numerous failed attempts to get wifi down to our garden room.

Arrived today, installed and instant wifi down there. Brilliant. Cheers smile

sparkyhx

4,200 posts

235 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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mesh system if the range works. The BT whole Home system works for my summer house and makes the house wifi over 4 floors awesome...………….and halfway down the street :-)



Slushbox

1,484 posts

136 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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JamesD74 said:
Just to say thank you for the above recommendation. Thought I would give this a try after numerous failed attempts to get wifi down to our garden room.

Arrived today, installed and instant wifi down there. Brilliant. Cheers smile
You're welcome. :-)

WyrleyD

2,353 posts

179 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Just to add I've got a TP-Link CPE 210 setup between two buildings and it works just fine .

jimmy156

Original Poster:

3,835 posts

218 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Thanks for all the replies!

In response to the poster with the photo of their garden (and dog) its quite a bit further than that, and with a bunch of trees and shrubs etc in the way. Our garden is very narrow, but quite long!

Looks like the options at the cheaper end of the market are something link the £40 TP link poweline kit, or for about the same money a wifi booster. The summerhouse has its own fusebox, but i think it comes of directly from the fusebox in the house. Im certain we only have 1 meter.

I can actually "see" our WiFi network from the end of the garden, but the signal is so weak it won't connect, maybe shifting the router about a bit will be enough!

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Try these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07349P1TX/ref=twister...

I use the same across consumer units and they work flawlessly.

Mains pass-through means you don't lose plug sockets and the remote end also has three Ethernet sockets available for devices. For wireless use, you'll just need to set it up as an Access Point.

Very easy to set it up.