V12v 0-60 4.2 sec
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When you see what manufacturer testers do to achieve the best figures, you realise that you would rarely do the same in real life...so no....few people ever achieve the manufacturer claimed times.
I think manufacturers should quote 2 times - the "best" with a pro driver (as they do now) and average just using the car normally,press throttle down. Of course any manufacturer with fancy electronic launch control would likely win.......so long as you note the small print in the owners manual, that if you use launch control more than twice ever, your warranty is invalidated ....like most of them
You could take it to a test day at Bruntingthorpe and get some real stats.....Spyderclub are running their yearly even in next couple of months.
I think manufacturers should quote 2 times - the "best" with a pro driver (as they do now) and average just using the car normally,press throttle down. Of course any manufacturer with fancy electronic launch control would likely win.......so long as you note the small print in the owners manual, that if you use launch control more than twice ever, your warranty is invalidated ....like most of them
You could take it to a test day at Bruntingthorpe and get some real stats.....Spyderclub are running their yearly even in next couple of months.
joinery80 said:
??????is this actually possible mine really struggles to keep power down even in bone dry conditions
Hi joinery80There are a couple of factors at play here I think. Firstly, the rear suspension on the original V12V is firm and non adjustable. There are plenty of stories of wheel spin in third gear on motorways as the car struggles for traction. BR do an upgrade to a two stage adjustable system which probably helps. The later V12VS has a standard fit adjustable system which many have said keeps the car better planted at the rear. The second issue is tyres. There are plenty of threads on here on that subject, so I won’t dwell. But if you’re running P-Zero Corsas, they need a lot of heat to generate grip, and at temperatures below 7c you may as well keep the car locked up at home.
Best Regards
Minglar
Edited by Minglar on Monday 29th April 08:32
In my RS6 or RS3 I can plant my foot and at least in the 6 beat the published time.
The RS3 is a little more squirrely maybe because of the dual-clutch rather than slushmatic box. But still just goes.
In the Vantage if I ever match the published time I will give myself a medal LOL (and probably end up in a hedge shortly after).
The RS3 is a little more squirrely maybe because of the dual-clutch rather than slushmatic box. But still just goes.
In the Vantage if I ever match the published time I will give myself a medal LOL (and probably end up in a hedge shortly after).
madcal said:
In my RS6 or RS3 I can plant my foot and at least in the 6 beat the published time.
The RS3 is a little more squirrely maybe because of the dual-clutch rather than slushmatic box. But still just goes.
In the Vantage if I ever match the published time I will give myself a medal LOL (and probably end up in a hedge shortly after).
The RS3 is a little more squirrely maybe because of the dual-clutch rather than slushmatic box. But still just goes.
In the Vantage if I ever match the published time I will give myself a medal LOL (and probably end up in a hedge shortly after).
I've never tried it in the Disco though
joinery80 said:
??????is this actually possible mine really struggles to keep power down even in bone dry conditions
Yes. Simple checklist: Are the tyres really hot?
and
Can you drive a car like you stole it? By which I mean - zero mechanical sympathy?
Foot on clutch, throttle down to 4500rpm (that number may be wrong, it's a while since I got the lecture), side step the clutch. Away you go...
Minglar said:
joinery80 said:
??????is this actually possible mine really struggles to keep power down even in bone dry conditions
Hi joinery80There are a couple of factors at play here I think. Firstly, the rear suspension on the original V12V is firm and non adjustable. There are plenty of stories of wheel spin in third gear on motorways as the car struggles for traction. BR do an upgrade to a two stage adjustable system which probably helps. The later V12VS has a standard fit adjustable system which many have said keeps the car better planted at the rear. The second issue is tyres. There are plenty of threads on here on that subject, so I won’t dwell. But if you’re running P-Zero Corsas, they need a lot of heat to generate grip, and at temperatures below 7c you may as well keep the car locked up at home.
Best Regards
Minglar
Edited by Minglar on Monday 29th April 08:32
I'd add to the tyre point - I ran one set of Trofeo Rs, two sets of P-zeros and perhaps 3 sets of P zero-corsas across the two cars, covering from memory c 30k miles across the two. That includes a fair few overseas tours and several track days
Corsas are unquestionably a pain across the course of a year's mixed driving in the UK but when the conditions are right, they are seriously superior to the regular p-zeros. To me that is in keeping with the character of the car in general, which is a car you really appreciate when absolutely everything is just right (road conditions, weather, mood, traffic, etc)
I am going to give a try to the Micheline PS4S when my current tyres need changing
I'd also add that of course with the latest electronic systems available on modern supercars including supersaloons, maximising the best of 2 pedal gearboxes and in many instances 4WD, of course the 0-whatever time will look poor for V12V/S. But mid to higher range punch is still impressive and dramatic. Unless you're playing traffic light top trumps, I'm really not sure it matters
embdenb said:
To get the manufactures acceleration times you MUST abuse the car. Few owners are willing to do this and rightfully so.
Which you generally do on the weekend you get the car and the weekend you sell the car!To be fair having been on the Aston on ice week long course in Lapland a couple of years ago we had Vantages, DB9s and Vanquishes sat on the rev limiter in 2nd and 3rd for 5 days in a row, 8 hours a day at -25 degrees and not one of them missed a beat, ever. They are remarkably strong so long as you let them warm up. Mechanical sympathy is the key!
Absolutely agree with the above comments that if you have any mechanical sympathy, and/or are responsible for the repair bills, it is not something to try and attain.
I take whatever is on the spec sheet as a general guide and basis for any 'bragging rights' if that sort of thing floats your boat (which in my case it doesn't) and would not want to put my pride and joy through the pain of trying to confirm the figures.
I take whatever is on the spec sheet as a general guide and basis for any 'bragging rights' if that sort of thing floats your boat (which in my case it doesn't) and would not want to put my pride and joy through the pain of trying to confirm the figures.
Edited by Manx V8V on Monday 29th April 22:08
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