Christopher Ward c60 Trident LE
Christopher Ward c60 Trident LE
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bonerp

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818 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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https://www.watchitallabout.com/christopher-ward-c...

I've just pre-ordered this (theres a discount code available to get a further £100 off 100SUN19 I think it was) and seriously looking forward to the day it drops on my door mat!

At this point I can't afford to splash out on the similar Omega Planet Ocean but I think this has some amazing features of its own.

SVS

3,824 posts

293 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Omega's gone too bling for my liking, but this CW looks great. There's a lot to like about the new CW Trident, especially in titanium, and I think the blue works beautifully with Ti.

If only they'd get rid of the "Christopher Ward" lettering on the face, which detracts from an otherwise handsome watch. The logo at 12 o'clock works much better on its own, without the need to spell out "Christopher Ward" elsewhere on the watch face.

Why do manufacturers insist on writing on a watch face? It spoils an otherwise clean look.

Badda

3,569 posts

104 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.

bonerp

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818 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Badda said:
£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.
Titanium and Ceramic? Not bad imho.



bonerp

Original Poster:

818 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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SVS said:
Omega's gone too bling for my liking, but this CW looks great. There's a lot to like about the new CW Trident, especially in titanium, and I think the blue works beautifully with Ti.

If only they'd get rid of the "Christopher Ward" lettering on the face, which detracts from an otherwise handsome watch. The logo at 12 o'clock works much better on its own, without the need to spell out "Christopher Ward" elsewhere on the watch face.

Why do manufacturers insist on writing on a watch face? It spoils an otherwise clean look.
Yeah I don't like the left hand CW writing. May have looked better above the chronograph wording at the bottom

Badda

3,569 posts

104 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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bonerp said:
Titanium and Ceramic? Not bad imho.
Not bad no but why not go for a totally original design?

bonerp

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818 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Badda said:
Not bad no but why not go for a totally original design?
True but they do other models - I just like this. I think its got a lot going for it.

Badda

3,569 posts

104 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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bonerp said:
Badda said:
Not bad no but why not go for a totally original design?
True but they do other models - I just like this. I think its got a lot going for it.
That’s the only thinks that counts so fill your boots! It’s more a comment on the brand than the consumer I suppose, they’re an established brand now, be nice to see them use the materials and tech in something different. Crack on!

Chuffedmonkey

975 posts

128 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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I think that watch looks amazing and the upgrades they have made make it outstanding value for money. If that watch was made by a well known brand it would cost a few k.

I am a CW fan though. With only 300 being made though I doubt ill get my hands on one which is a shame as the non LE versions are not worth me upgrading over the MK2. I really like that orange quarter bezel.

Paul Drawmer

5,102 posts

289 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Badda said:
£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.
Forgive my ignorance; but in what way is this a homage?

Badda

3,569 posts

104 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Paul Drawmer said:
Badda said:
£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.
Forgive my ignorance; but in what way is this a homage?
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-planet-ocean-600m-omega-co-axial-master-chronometer-43-5-mm-21530442103001

Paul Drawmer

5,102 posts

289 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Badda said:
Paul Drawmer said:
Badda said:
£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.
Forgive my ignorance; but in what way is this a homage?
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-planet-ocean-600m-omega-co-axial-master-chronometer-43-5-mm-21530442103001
Well, they're both blue with batons. Case, hands, bezel nothing like the Omega.
For Titanium/COSC/ceramic bezel/1000M I think it's a cracker.

OK, I'm a CW fan, I've got a few of them.


Barchettaman

7,090 posts

154 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Lovely thing!

Distinctive and just the right side of bling.

The price is a bit toppy with just a Sellita SW200 movement, but that shouldn’t necessarily put you off. I’d love to see it with their in house movement.

UnclePat

511 posts

109 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Badda said:
£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.
Nonsense.

It takes more than just using blue & orange to make it an homage, especially as this is only one of very many versions for the new model.

As for using their materials & tech in other ways beyond a dive watch, they have developed their own SH21 movement with 120-hour power reserve, plus complication modules for things like monopusher chronographs, world timers, big dates, moonphase displays etc.

If anything, their diversity often produces a few design ‘ugly ducklings’ that I don’t admire, but to credit them they don’t just churn out the same old dive watches year-in, year-out. This is the third iteration of their best-seller in 10 years.

For disclosure, I’ve owned just one Christopher Ward in the last - the last Trident model - but sold it as although it was a well made, good value, quality watch, there were several issues that really annoyed me with it (most of which look to have been fixed with the new model, though).

Paul Drawmer said:
For Titanium/COSC/ceramic bezel/1000M I think it's a cracker.
It’s not for me personally - I’m not convinced by the looks of that version, and nor do I personally care that much for COSC, HEVs, titanium, or huge depth ratings - but I have to acknowledge that for Christopher Ward to offer ALL of those for £1,250 makes it a good proposition (if you like the design & value such things), especially if you look at what a similarly specced dive watch would cost elsewhere.


lostkiwi

4,585 posts

146 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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For comparison a titanium cased, 500m ceramic bezel sapphire case back Magrette Kara comes in at €799.
I think that's a better bargain than the CW.

Badda

3,569 posts

104 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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UnclePat said:
Badda said:
£1250 on what is really a homage? It looks nice but blimey.
Nonsense.

It takes more than just using blue & orange to make it an homage, especially as this is only one of very many versions for the new model.
No it's not and it seems a common opinion, it's clearly based on the Planet Ocean. If you can't see that and/or it doesn't bother you then great. It would me however and at that price point I'd want something more original from the company.

Barchettaman

7,090 posts

154 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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lostkiwi said:
For comparison a titanium cased, 500m ceramic bezel sapphire case back Magrette Kara comes in at €799.
I think that's a better bargain than the CW.
Good call - that also comes with the STP1-11 clone of the ETA 2824, arguably a better movement than the Sellita.

UnclePat

511 posts

109 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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lostkiwi said:
For comparison a titanium cased, 500m ceramic bezel sapphire case back Magrette Kara comes in at €799.
I think that's a better bargain than the CW.
Cheaper, yes.

But considering the CW also has COSC, a 5-year warranty, an HEV and a quick-release hybrid rubber/cordura strap, I’d expect it to cost more, as I would that Magrette if it had those extra features too.

I mightn’t necessarily desire all of those myself, but they undoubtedly come at additional expense - the COSC process alone costs a fair bit, relatively speaking.

Comparing the two watches, the CW also looks superior in terms of complexity and finishing, with applied indices instead of a simple painted dial, and a more complex, chamfered case. The hands, like the indices & case, also evidence a more varied brushed & polished finish.

The Magrette is a great watch, and I do like a good microbrand myself, but (though perhaps I’m wrong) I suspect there is a Chinese catalogue somewhere offering the same generic case, hands etc. That’s not to say they must be of poor quality - hardly - and I’m also not fooled by ‘Swiss Made’, but bespoke components stand apart and cost more to both design & manufacture from scratch.

As to the movement, the Sellita is a virtual clone of the ETA 2824, as is Fossil’s STP in the Magrette. Aside from a few changes I doubt there is much difference, but crucially there may or may not be in terms of how much attention they receive after manufacture in terms of regulation etc.

ZesPak

26,003 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Trying to read this thread but it seems like people forgot how to post pictures...



As far as I can seem they are both divers and both use orange and blue.
Both look great but I'm not a big fan of CW's name placement.

Badda

3,569 posts

104 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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CW also 'borrow' Seamaster designs such as the double baton at 12 and the second hand pointer. All small things but in sum, non-original. As I said before, it's absolutely fine to like it but I can't.