Best small coffee machine....?
Discussion
I am looking to buy a new coffee machine - it needs a few 'must' have features, not many.
I have lost touch with the latest and greatest machines.... I've had a Gaggia for years which I've been happy with, but it's dead and the new models are a bit plastic fantastic.
Many thanks for any recommendations and links.
- Reasonably small sized.
- Not capsules - will take ground coffee
- Will take large cup sizes - not for micro espresso's
I have lost touch with the latest and greatest machines.... I've had a Gaggia for years which I've been happy with, but it's dead and the new models are a bit plastic fantastic.
Many thanks for any recommendations and links.

Whoozit said:
Turn7 said:
Whoozit said:
A Bialetti will do all that and cost a small fraction of £500.
They dont though.....an Espresso has a lot more body and a crema that a Bialetti doesnt produce.....Not sure what kind of machine you're aiming for, but the new Gaggia Classic is not plastic fantastic. It's got all the features that it should have: proper steam wand, solenoid etc.
You can probably tell I've got one, but I'm very happy with it.
Edited to add the Rancilio Silvia, which always goes head to head with the classic.
You can probably tell I've got one, but I'm very happy with it.
Edited to add the Rancilio Silvia, which always goes head to head with the classic.
Edited by Chucklehead on Sunday 5th May 08:57
Bonefish Blues said:
That looks pretty good.... I like the look of the A1 machine actually via that link.I do make espresso's - but my preference is for a large cup rather than a tiny shot. I have one a day and it needs to be good.
I've never used a bean to cup machine, so the Jura could be an interesting option.
NDA said:
Bonefish Blues said:
That looks pretty good.... I like the look of the A1 machine actually via that link.I do make espresso's - but my preference is for a large cup rather than a tiny shot. I have one a day and it needs to be good.
I've never used a bean to cup machine, so the Jura could be an interesting option.

Chucklehead said:
Not sure what kind of machine you're aiming for, but the new Gaggia Classic is not plastic fantastic. It's got all the features that it should have: proper steam wand, solenoid etc.
You can probably tell I've got one, but I'm very happy with it.
Edited to add the Rancilio Silvia, which always goes head to head with the classic.
Oh thanks... will check out the Gaggia. Last time I looked Philips had bought Gaggia and their Classic replacement of the, er, Classic, was horrid. It sounds like it's changed again - I will have a look.You can probably tell I've got one, but I'm very happy with it.
Edited to add the Rancilio Silvia, which always goes head to head with the classic.
Will check out the Rancillo too.
NDA said:
Chucklehead said:
Not sure what kind of machine you're aiming for, but the new Gaggia Classic is not plastic fantastic. It's got all the features that it should have: proper steam wand, solenoid etc.
You can probably tell I've got one, but I'm very happy with it.
Edited to add the Rancilio Silvia, which always goes head to head with the classic.
Oh thanks... will check out the Gaggia. Last time I looked Philips had bought Gaggia and their Classic replacement of the, er, Classic, was horrid. It sounds like it's changed again - I will have a look.You can probably tell I've got one, but I'm very happy with it.
Edited to add the Rancilio Silvia, which always goes head to head with the classic.
Will check out the Rancillo too.
They're currently going through a full model revamp with new offerings due in the near future. EVOCA's ownership should be good for the brand but I suspect it'll be the next generation that will bring the real improvements. (I provide bean to cup machinery for commercial use; pubs, clubs, hotels, restaurants, offices etc.)
tumble dryer said:
Espresso is the base for ALL coffee drinks
Um... not really. Different strokes for different folks. Just looking at what I have at home, filter, press, cold brew, Turkish/Greek, frappe, are all different ways I have to make coffee drinks. To those, off the top of my head, you can add percolator, pourover, siphon. As well as my Bialetti. There was a good flowchart I saw a few months back, showing the main coffee brewing types and illustrative drinks made from them. Espresso can be good but often is overroasted, rushed and quite bitter.
Edit: here's the flowchart. https://www.amazon.com/Pop-Chart-Lab-Compendious-M...
Edited by Whoozit on Sunday 5th May 09:25
tumble dryer said:
Gaggia now owned by EVOCA formerly N&W (Necta & Wittenborg).
They're currently going through a full model revamp with new offerings due in the near future. EVOCA's ownership should be good for the brand but I suspect it'll be the next generation that will bring the real improvements. (I provide bean to cup machinery for commercial use; pubs, clubs, hotels, restaurants, offices etc.)
I didn't know any of that it's great info, thanks. I've had two Gaggia Classics over many many years - the plastic Philips ones were pretty horrid and not as good as the original.They're currently going through a full model revamp with new offerings due in the near future. EVOCA's ownership should be good for the brand but I suspect it'll be the next generation that will bring the real improvements. (I provide bean to cup machinery for commercial use; pubs, clubs, hotels, restaurants, offices etc.)
It may be time to try another brand - hence my question here.
I do like the simplicity of the Jura A1 which I hadn't heard of before this thread. Are they decent machines?
NDA said:
tumble dryer said:
Gaggia now owned by EVOCA formerly N&W (Necta & Wittenborg).
They're currently going through a full model revamp with new offerings due in the near future. EVOCA's ownership should be good for the brand but I suspect it'll be the next generation that will bring the real improvements. (I provide bean to cup machinery for commercial use; pubs, clubs, hotels, restaurants, offices etc.)
I didn't know any of that it's great info, thanks. I've had two Gaggia Classics over many many years - the plastic Philips ones were pretty horrid and not as good as the original.They're currently going through a full model revamp with new offerings due in the near future. EVOCA's ownership should be good for the brand but I suspect it'll be the next generation that will bring the real improvements. (I provide bean to cup machinery for commercial use; pubs, clubs, hotels, restaurants, offices etc.)
It may be time to try another brand - hence my question here.
I do like the simplicity of the Jura A1 which I hadn't heard of before this thread. Are they decent machines?
Got a VonShef one for 50 quid. 15 bar pressure, steamer etc. OP isn't the only person with one x10 the cost which has broken so I'm happy to enter the world of espresso makers at the low end. Plasticy but nice chrome one for a few quid more. I've also got a stove top one, filter machine, cafetiere and drip filter so should arguably just have gone straight for a more versatile machine but I only have mine black and the cheap one will froth the milk if guests are that way inclined.
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