Why on earth is formatting this drive taking soooo long?
Why on earth is formatting this drive taking soooo long?
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Shuvi McTupya

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278 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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I bought a cheap 2.5" 2TB external drive and put some movies on it to play on a TV but the TV complained about the file system so I allowed the TV to format the disc the way it wanted it. When i then plugged it back into the PC loads of files with senseless names had been created so i put it back the way it was and gave up and decided to use it as a back up drive instead.

Then i noticed that accessing it was very slow so i thought maybe a full fat format might be required.

I started that process nearly a day ago and this is where it is at!



The USB port is USB2 as the machine is a few yrs old but, seriously?


Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

140 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Have you tried NTFS?
There is a file size limit when using Fat 32 that may be too small for your needs

Anyway, the drive might be faulty

You could try formatting with Gparted

Shuvi McTupya

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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Penelope Stopit said:
Have you tried NTFS?
There is a file size limit when using Fat 32 that may be too small for your needs

Anyway, the drive might be faulty

You could try formatting with Gparted
from what I have read 'exfat' doesnt have the same file size restrictions that fat32 has, but to be honest I dont think i will be putting any files over 4gb on it anyway.

I agree, the drive might be faulty.

Just downloading Gparted and will give it a go, thanks smile

Penelope Stopit

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140 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
from what I have read 'exfat' doesnt have the same file size restrictions that fat32 has, but to be honest I dont think i will be putting any files over 4gb on it anyway.

I agree, the drive might be faulty.

Just downloading Gparted and will give it a go, thanks smile
Thanks, you've taught me something. I've never used exfat and thought all the FATS had limitations, I've learnt about this too late as I've as good as binned Windows
Good luck, Gparted has never failed me

bloomen

10,262 posts

190 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Sounds like your full fat format is wiping by overwriting. If that is the case then 2tb could easily take most of a day or more. A lighter one shouldn't take more than a few seconds.

Shuvi McTupya

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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Penelope Stopit said:
Thanks, you've taught me something. I've never used exfat and thought all the FATS had limitations, I've learnt about this too late as I've as good as binned Windows
Good luck, Gparted has never failed me
gparted has failed me, or i have failed the initiative test!

I downloaded 'gparted live 0.33.0 - 2-i686' but the program that actually installed was 'Roxio CD and DVD burning software' No mention of Gparted at all.

I am now formatting to NTFS with 'ease US' partition master and will see what happens.

Shuvi McTupya

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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Well, 'EaseUS' said it had successfully formatted the drive but windows (7) can not access the drive as 'The file or directory is corrupt and unreadable'.

I have never had issues with external USB drives before. this one was a budget one off ebay. It is a 'Nemko expansion portable drive' but weirdly if you google that name all that comes up is seagate drives and this one looks like the seagate drives but it definitely does not say seagate on it!




Shuvi McTupya

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bloomen said:
Sounds like your full fat format is wiping by overwriting. If that is the case then 2tb could easily take most of a day or more. A lighter one shouldn't take more than a few seconds.
AT the speed it was going, a week would have been on the cards!

Penelope Stopit

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140 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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You could download and run this to get the SMART information from the drive https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskin...

The tool will tell you if the HDD has failed or is failing
Others have posted to the net that this tool works for external USB Drives
Be sure to select the correct drive before running

Shuvi McTupya

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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I just ran that software, the external disk does not show up so i am going to let windows do a 'quick' format and see if anything changes.

Penelope Stopit

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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What a pain of a problem, not that it's any consolation I've had 2 Drives fail on me this week and one hadn't done hardly any work

Shuvi McTupya

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Penelope Stopit said:
What a pain of a problem, not that it's any consolation I've had 2 Drives fail on me this week and one hadn't done hardly any work
Two in one week? Do you use them professionally or something?

This will be my first ever failure (of a drive of any sort) and it was brand new and unused until two weeks ago .



Penelope Stopit

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
Penelope Stopit said:
What a pain of a problem, not that it's any consolation I've had 2 Drives fail on me this week and one hadn't done hardly any work
Two in one week? Do you use them professionally or something?

This will be my first ever failure (of a drive of any sort) and it was brand new and unused until two weeks ago .
I bought 2 Seagate External Drives a few years ago and they both failed out of the box (Click of Death), Seagate replaced them and one of them has hardly been used (shut away in a cupboard with a few files on it), it's now clunking away but still working, the other one was an old one that hadn't done much work

Good luck with yours

Edit....I couldn't help but notice that you've been computing to this place for longer than many people live

Edited by Penelope Stopit on Saturday 4th May 16:44

Shuvi McTupya

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Yeah i have been kicking around here for a while smile

So, the format failed and spewed out a message about the disc being read only so i just looked for help and did some stuff on the command prompt to clear the read only status. It then performed a quick format in a matter of seconds and now i am copying a 5gb folder to it to see if it all slows down again.

Fingers crossed!




Shuvi McTupya

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Bloody thing is transferring data at 3mb/s...

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

140 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Bad news then?
I wonder if a different cable will make a difference?

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

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Just thought of something, I had this happen on a new laptop, was advised to update drivers and that fixed it. I know it might not be your problem but...

Shuvi McTupya

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Saturday 4th May 2019
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Both good suggestions and funnily enough I do have another cable and it is working better than the one that came with the drive, it is running somewhere between 12-17Mb/s which is much better but I still think it should be a fair bit quicker.

I have also tried updating the drivers but it says they are fine.
My attempt to format to NTFS has now failed twice.
Crystal disk still doesn't see the external drive so I cant get a report.

I am going to move a bunch of stuff onto it and see if the access speed slows down again and if it does i might try a 'full fat' format again and just leave it for as long as it takes.

As it is though, windows can only format it as exFAT, everything else fails.

Atleast its not life and death or anything smile


Drive Blind

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208 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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combination of cheap hdd plus the usb to sata interface slowing things down?


Shuvi McTupya

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Drive Blind said:
combination of cheap hdd plus the usb to sata interface slowing things down?
nail/head i think.

Its a 2TB drive for about £30 delivered, so i guess i shouldn't expect too much, but i don't see why the TV's I have tried using it on don't like it, maybe they just cant handle a drive as big as 2TB?

And it has slowed right down again. i am moving 15Gb of movies onto it and it has dropped back down to 3mb/s.