E90 rear brake dust shields
E90 rear brake dust shields
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steve_bmw

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1,591 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Decided to sort the handbrake on the 320d 2011 and one side went fine, new shoes, discs and pads, however the near side backing plate that holds the shoes has been beaten flat by some total moron.
The shoes don’t sit right in the disc and it’s all mangled up.

I need to replace the backing plate, can these be cut and slotted over the hub? Or is it a bearing out job?

Cheers.

helix402

7,913 posts

212 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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I think the rear backplates are like the E46. Secured behind the bearing. Ideally the bearing would have to be removed to replace the backplate.

But it’s probably possible like the E46 to cut a section of a new backplate and fit it.

steve_bmw

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1,591 posts

205 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Right guys, good news, the backing plate is separate from the shoe retaining plate, and it has a slot in it.
It was so beaten I couldn’t tell on the car.


Pica-Pica

16,676 posts

114 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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steve_bmw said:
Right guys, good news, the backing plate is separate from the shoe retaining plate, and it has a slot in it.
It was so beaten I couldn’t tell on the car.

Are you sure? On that diagram it looks like the shoe retaining hole (London Underground sign shape) is within the plate as carry-over from E36. You can solve by
1) new plates, which is bearing out job
2) make up some retaining clips
3) buy new backplates, cur in half, fit without touching bearing.

I tried 2, eventually ended going to 3. (1, is really a no-no.)


steve_bmw

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205 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Yes it comes away from the back plate.
Look at the state of what some cowboy did to the one that I took off

Total loss

2,138 posts

257 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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steve_bmw said:

Yes it comes away from the back plate.
Look at the state of what some cowboy did to the one that I took off
Begs the question now, could E90 backing plates be used on an E46 to save the hassle of standard E46 ones?

steve_bmw

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205 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Quick update. Got a new shoe fixing plate from Bmw £10. It can be fitted without removing hub just needs a slight bend where the ends meet, all back together as it should be now.
Handbrake still as bad as a Bmw normally is.

I’ll bed it in for a few days and re adjust.

steve_bmw

Original Poster:

1,591 posts

205 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Quick update. Got a new shoe fixing plate from Bmw £10. It can be fitted without removing hub just needs a slight bend where the ends meet, all back together as it should be now.
Handbrake still as bad as a Bmw normally is.

I’ll bed it in for a few days and re adjust.

Pica-Pica

16,676 posts

114 months

Tuesday 7th May 2019
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Total loss said:
steve_bmw said:

Yes it comes away from the back plate.
Look at the state of what some cowboy did to the one that I took off
Begs the question now, could E90 backing plates be used on an E46 to save the hassle of standard E46 ones?
You may be able to check if the service part numbers co-incide. It is often that the service part number is different to the production part number - to make servicing easier.

Touring442

3,096 posts

239 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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They're a completely different shape - E46 ones are basically E36 types. You can still cut then and wind them on. I've seen these with a couple of dabs of weld or a pair of big strong tie wraps used but once bolted on they don't really flex or move.

The E90 was basically an E46 where someone actually stopped for a minute and considered how it could be repaired easily. They're so much easier to work on it's unreal. Backplates, radiators, expansion tanks, window regulators etc are both a lot more robust and far easier to fix.

Pica-Pica

16,676 posts

114 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Touring442 said:
They're a completely different shape - E46 ones are basically E36 types. You can still cut then and wind them on. I've seen these with a couple of dabs of weld or a pair of big strong tie wraps used but once bolted on they don't really flex or move.

The E90 was basically an E46 where someone actually stopped for a minute and considered how it could be repaired easily. They're so much easier to work on it's unreal. Backplates, radiators, expansion tanks, window regulators etc are both a lot more robust and far easier to fix.
OK. That is surprising, at Ford all our design feasibility meetings had Service Engineering represented, and very vocal they were too - almost as vocal as Manufacturing Engineering!

Touring442

3,096 posts

239 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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From a mechanics's perspective, the E46 is a spectacularly bad design. For example, the way in which the front strut clamp bolt threads directly into the hub (rather than a nut and bolt) is just asking for trouble. Moving the failure prone heater fan resistor from the glovebox side to the steering column side must have been an act of pure malice. laugh

Mind you, it's only with the F30 that BMW finally - finally! - made the rear damper top mounts accessible from under the arch, thus avoiding the tedium of taking all the b*stard boot trims out.