Sex education in schools
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I know this has nothing to do with Pistonable things but.... has anyone seen the news this morning about the woman blaming schools for her 3 girls getting pregnant before they were 16?
She reckons there should be better sex education for young girls. It obviously has nothing to do with how they're brought up, no sir. I mean c'mon now. When you're getting £31k benefits a year surely you're not expected to bring your own kids up right are you?
Surely it's some one elses responsibilty is it not? How are you supposed to have any time for them when you're busy filling in forms to make sure you get as much out of the state as you possibly can?
I say we put this family on celebrity crap club or something and make sure they get paid a proper wage for doing fack all for us and taking the piss.
Ah, the future of England looks bright.
Oh no, I think something just popped........:furious::shoot::rage::banghead::ranting:
She reckons there should be better sex education for young girls. It obviously has nothing to do with how they're brought up, no sir. I mean c'mon now. When you're getting £31k benefits a year surely you're not expected to bring your own kids up right are you?
Surely it's some one elses responsibilty is it not? How are you supposed to have any time for them when you're busy filling in forms to make sure you get as much out of the state as you possibly can?
I say we put this family on celebrity crap club or something and make sure they get paid a proper wage for doing fack all for us and taking the piss.
Ah, the future of England looks bright.
Oh no, I think something just popped........:furious::shoot::rage::banghead::ranting:
And they absorb upwards of £30k of benefits a year too, including the mother.
Sorry, but 3 gymslip Mums, and a mother blaming the school!
Sorry, but it strikes me as a total lack of work ethic - don't pay attention in school, and obviously she's never listened to anyone either.
Typical chav technique - pass on the blame to the nearest source of influence
And where are the scumsters who got them pregnant as well?
And yet we continue to support them...
Sorry, but 3 gymslip Mums, and a mother blaming the school!
Sorry, but it strikes me as a total lack of work ethic - don't pay attention in school, and obviously she's never listened to anyone either.
Typical chav technique - pass on the blame to the nearest source of influence
And where are the scumsters who got them pregnant as well?
And yet we continue to support them...
[quote=Twincam16- don't pay attention in school, and obviously she's never listened to anyone either. [/quote]
They probably never went! The sad thing is that the kids will turn out just like the mothers.
Also if one girl has seen it happen to her sister, why for the love of god did she go out and do it herself? And it happened not onece but twice. The last one must have really been thick. Harsh but fair.
They probably never went! The sad thing is that the kids will turn out just like the mothers.
Also if one girl has seen it happen to her sister, why for the love of god did she go out and do it herself? And it happened not onece but twice. The last one must have really been thick. Harsh but fair.
Just saw this on ITV news and came in here to opst it - beaten to it!
Drive me nuts, this. Everybody except yourself to blame. Apparently it's now up to schools to bring up your kids while you sit on your arse smoking Lamberts and watching Trasha.
And now a new generation of kids brought up (or not as the case may be) - in 16 or less years another 9 benefits scroungers.
It terrifies me to say this but surely it must be getting to the stage where there must be an exam / basic parenting course before people are allowed to have children. But then how do we stop it? Enforced sterilisation at birth before reversing it when exam passed!?
Drive me nuts, this. Everybody except yourself to blame. Apparently it's now up to schools to bring up your kids while you sit on your arse smoking Lamberts and watching Trasha.
And now a new generation of kids brought up (or not as the case may be) - in 16 or less years another 9 benefits scroungers.
It terrifies me to say this but surely it must be getting to the stage where there must be an exam / basic parenting course before people are allowed to have children. But then how do we stop it? Enforced sterilisation at birth before reversing it when exam passed!?
Wildfire said:
- don't pay attention in school, and obviously she's never listened to anyone either.
They probably never went! The sad thing is that the kids will turn out just like the mothers.
Also if one girl has seen it happen to her sister, why for the love of god did she go out and do it herself? And it happened not onece but twice. The last one must have really been thick. Harsh but fair.
I've noticed every time these kinds of whingers are quizzed about why they got pregnant, they always say 'cos I likes babbies innit'.
The reason is, really, that they're still kids themselves, have had their innocence stripped away, and something inside them is still yearning for a doll to dress up.
The future can only be worse though - what on earth are these third-generation kids going to grow into? What kind of pupils/workers/spouses/parents are they going to grow into???
NiceCupOfTea said:
It terrifies me to say this but surely it must be getting to the stage where there must be an exam / basic parenting course before people are allowed to have children. But then how do we stop it? Enforced sterilisation at birth before reversing it when exam passed!?
We were just discussing this the other day, very topical as it turned out.
Plotloss said:
I fear the only thing left to do is get a massive bucket of popcorn, a gallon of coke (and a baby ) and simply watch the decline of society.
This slope is far to inclinded and treated with PTFE as far as I can tell...
John Major was quoted by one source on the news this morning, in relation to antisocial behaviour, but it rings true when all chavs are involved:
"There needs to be a little less understanding and a little more condemnation"
There comes a point where 'understanding' doesn't actually do anyone any good, and the moral high ground is not only relevant, but there for the (necessary) taking.
miniman said:
sky said:Just weeks later Jade, then 14, and 16-year-old Natasha - who is in a secret relationship with the baby's 38-year-old Asian father - found they were pregnant.
Shouldn't that be "who was in a secret relationship"???
I had to quote this from one of the dead threads, because it cracked me up !!!!
And what about the names ?
Is Amani meant to be Amani or is it Armani(sp) spelt wrong ? "What's TJ short for then ?"
"Nuffink, that is his name"
I suppose I should take this more seriously, loss-of-innocence etc, but I just don't give a shit any more.
bruciebabie said:
Having babies isn't a "right".
Unfortunately its a biological capability. Until you control it medically you can't stop it.
And yes - I have postulated before now that reversible, compulsory sterilisation that youngsters can elect to have undone at the age of 21 would save untold human misery.
It'll never happen though.
Simply removing any benefits would help. Sorry - if you can't pay for your baby you have to give it up for adoption.
There are always cases where this would be inhumane though.
Difficult problem - with no easy solutions I fear.
On the few occasions when I have been in Derby city centre on a weekday and at half term I have been amazed at the number of VERY young looking kids wandering around pushing babies and toddlers.
Always suspected that they were part of the 'parents by 11' age group but hoped that they might have been looking after siblings or older siblings kids whilst the real mother worked or whatever.
This is not a new phenomenon as such. Back in the 60's I heard that a girl I met at the start of Primary School, who I last saw when she was 13 (going on 25) and in a relationship with a 26 year-old, had started a family by the age of 16 and went on to have 3 kids and a view that it would be nice to have a 16 year old daughter for a 'friend' when only 32!
The difference was that she married the father and as far as I know the marriage lasted well enough. My mother had occasional contact with the girl's mother (her father died tragically when the kids were still quite young and my father had acted as the stand in father to give the bride away when the Eldest Daughter married). Anyway, the popint of the story is that the event is not that new but the subesequent expectation are.
A former neighbour used to teach at a school in one fo the more interesting parts of Derby. I'm sure every town and city have their interesting parts.
The school had a big problem with mobile phones going off in the middle of lessons, so they tried to enforce a ban. In the course of this and the resistance to the ban they discovered that one 13 year old girl was running, or being run as, a sex phone line via her mobile. For this she needed to be available at all times.
Whether or not she offered other services out of hours was, as far as I know, not determined on the basis the teachers had a duty of care whilst in school but did not want to risk the wrath of external elements creating danger for staff and other pupils.
Personally I think the parent(s) are complicit in this sort of situation. In past times such breeding may have had a purpose - cannon fodder in wars for example, numbers to compensate for losses to disease - and if we could guarantee mostly male progeny there might still be some benefit. A higher male ratio would control the production volume somewhat.
One benefit that we need to consider is that, if the kids born can be put to productive work, the population of younger people will be increased in a way that might help to support some pension payments for the older generation.
With the age of parenthood for many educated young people slipping into the 30's the concept of an underclass that can breed on an approximate 16 year cycle might be useful.
However it is a pity that the result of such poduction techniques cannot be more closely managed to provide the desired mix and quality.
Brave New World anyone?
I realise that I am floating thoughts that are very close to the concept of eugenics. It's funny how these things seem to develop from step by step thinking.
Always suspected that they were part of the 'parents by 11' age group but hoped that they might have been looking after siblings or older siblings kids whilst the real mother worked or whatever.
This is not a new phenomenon as such. Back in the 60's I heard that a girl I met at the start of Primary School, who I last saw when she was 13 (going on 25) and in a relationship with a 26 year-old, had started a family by the age of 16 and went on to have 3 kids and a view that it would be nice to have a 16 year old daughter for a 'friend' when only 32!
The difference was that she married the father and as far as I know the marriage lasted well enough. My mother had occasional contact with the girl's mother (her father died tragically when the kids were still quite young and my father had acted as the stand in father to give the bride away when the Eldest Daughter married). Anyway, the popint of the story is that the event is not that new but the subesequent expectation are.
A former neighbour used to teach at a school in one fo the more interesting parts of Derby. I'm sure every town and city have their interesting parts.
The school had a big problem with mobile phones going off in the middle of lessons, so they tried to enforce a ban. In the course of this and the resistance to the ban they discovered that one 13 year old girl was running, or being run as, a sex phone line via her mobile. For this she needed to be available at all times.
Whether or not she offered other services out of hours was, as far as I know, not determined on the basis the teachers had a duty of care whilst in school but did not want to risk the wrath of external elements creating danger for staff and other pupils.
Personally I think the parent(s) are complicit in this sort of situation. In past times such breeding may have had a purpose - cannon fodder in wars for example, numbers to compensate for losses to disease - and if we could guarantee mostly male progeny there might still be some benefit. A higher male ratio would control the production volume somewhat.
One benefit that we need to consider is that, if the kids born can be put to productive work, the population of younger people will be increased in a way that might help to support some pension payments for the older generation.
With the age of parenthood for many educated young people slipping into the 30's the concept of an underclass that can breed on an approximate 16 year cycle might be useful.
However it is a pity that the result of such poduction techniques cannot be more closely managed to provide the desired mix and quality.
Brave New World anyone?
I realise that I am floating thoughts that are very close to the concept of eugenics. It's funny how these things seem to develop from step by step thinking.
IMO we need to do something about it pretty soon before a party like the BNP decide it's up to them and people have got desperate.
Our country is being over-run by freeloaders, vandals, yobs and other people generally not contributing. And the reason why they do it is 'because they can. Whatcha gonna do?'
It is propogated by the socialists, because they are riddled with twisted morals and middle class guilt. They go on saying 'these people are damaged and we must try to understand them'.
Yeah, but they don't give a shit about that and continue to get worse.
When the general population is past caring, we run the risk of encouraging a Hitler. Fascism thrives on desperate times. Let's make sure we don't go there.
Our country is being over-run by freeloaders, vandals, yobs and other people generally not contributing. And the reason why they do it is 'because they can. Whatcha gonna do?'
It is propogated by the socialists, because they are riddled with twisted morals and middle class guilt. They go on saying 'these people are damaged and we must try to understand them'.
Yeah, but they don't give a shit about that and continue to get worse.
When the general population is past caring, we run the risk of encouraging a Hitler. Fascism thrives on desperate times. Let's make sure we don't go there.
Its not about money or eugenics or anything else.
Its all simply down to the collapse of community.
Ever wonder why you dont see Chavs of Indian or Pakistani descent?
Because they place a massive amount of individual work into maintaining their communities and making them work as a whole. Sink hole, predominantly white council estates where these
ers breed have no sense of community at all...
Its all simply down to the collapse of community.
Ever wonder why you dont see Chavs of Indian or Pakistani descent?
Because they place a massive amount of individual work into maintaining their communities and making them work as a whole. Sink hole, predominantly white council estates where these
ers breed have no sense of community at all...Don said:
Unfortunately its a biological capability. Until you control it medically you can't stop it.
And yes - I have postulated before now that reversible, compulsory sterilisation that youngsters can elect to have undone at the age of 21 would save untold human misery.
It'll never happen though.
Simply removing any benefits would help. Sorry - if you can't pay for your baby you have to give it up for adoption.
There are always cases where this would be inhumane though.
Difficult problem - with no easy solutions I fear.
You are right about the easy solutions part.
No party at the present time would contemplate compulsory birth control until given a 'licence' to breed.
As regards benefits the Americans have achieved great things with their welfare reforms-limiting single mothers to a lifetime limit of 5 years on benefits.
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