Rio de Janeiro to replace Interlagos as Brazil GP from 2020
Rio de Janeiro to replace Interlagos as Brazil GP from 2020
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Supersam83

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1,734 posts

167 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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So today Brazil's President has announced that a brand new track with be built in Rio de Janeiro in time for the Brazil GP in 2020 and this years will be the last at Interlagos at Sao Paulo.

Thoughts?

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/rio-brazil-pres...

1st look:

TheDeuce

30,871 posts

88 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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I take it this is an anti-clockwise circuit? If so, the first shallow left is going to push the front rows to the left to take the racing line, almost as soon as their wheels have stopped skipping, then they immediately all have to commit to swinging back to the right for the apex of the right hander. Looks like a good place to bring 6 cars into 1! Bring it on.

Also the hard left at the end of the long straight. Looks like a fairly good layout imo.

If it's a clockwise circuit, it looks terrible smile

It must be super early on and all pie in the sky though. That visual shows nowhere near enough space for F1 facilities. You'd expect to see a bit more detail in the render for a facility we're expected to believe could be hosting the race next year.

thegreenhell

21,492 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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As I said in another thread, the circuit doesn't exist and apparently neither does the money to build it, so there is no way the Brazilian GP will be in Rio in 2020, especially as Interlagos has a contract for 2020. And the president has a habit of making fanciful announcements that come to nothing in the end.

The Donald would call it fake news.

Rumblestripe

3,771 posts

184 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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thegreenhell said:
As I said in another thread, the circuit doesn't exist and apparently neither does the money to build it, so there is no way the Brazilian GP will be in Rio in 2020, especially as Interlagos has a contract for 2020. And the president has a habit of making fanciful announcements that come to nothing in the end.

The Donald would call it fake news.
Unless it was The Donald saying it wink

TheDeuce

30,871 posts

88 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Rumblestripe said:
Unless it was The Donald saying it wink
Like the Mexican border 'wall'. I think he's managed 40 miles of that since getting into power, and in the same time more than that of the pre-existing walls/barriers have collapsed or been destroyed biggrin

Anyway, this track in Rio. No, just no. Won't happen. I do like the layout though, it looks really good. That alone tells me that F1/FIA haven't had anything to with this obvious pipe dream, gifted to us from a mentalist.

Deesee

8,509 posts

105 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Thought Bernie E family’s trust lawyers lawyer owned interlagos via Luxembourg (or something wickedly hidden from public view).

It will be interesting following this story over the coming months.

TheDeuce

30,871 posts

88 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Deesee said:
Thought Bernie E family’s trust lawyers lawyer owned interlagos via Luxembourg (or something wickedly hidden from public view).

It will be interesting following this story over the coming months.
I think this might be the first and last of this particular story. F1 won't deny it, as in doing so, they would be calling the President a liar, and risk loosing Brazil as a destination, which is actually (imo) a pretty decent track/destination.


Drive Blind

5,571 posts

199 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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so they are going to build an F1 track from scratch in 1 year? Is that even possible?

Without even looking at the detail the track doesn't look like a modern f1 circuit. Run off looks too small and theres none of the modern track design trademarks eg a good straight followed by a big stop into a tight turn.






The Moose

23,528 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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TheDeuce said:
I take it this is an anti-clockwise circuit? If so, the first shallow left is going to push the front rows to the left to take the racing line, almost as soon as their wheels have stopped skipping, then they immediately all have to commit to swinging back to the right for the apex of the right hander. Looks like a good place to bring 6 cars into 1! Bring it on.

Also the hard left at the end of the long straight. Looks like a fairly good layout imo.

If it's a clockwise circuit, it looks terrible smile

It must be super early on and all pie in the sky though. That visual shows nowhere near enough space for F1 facilities. You'd expect to see a bit more detail in the render for a facility we're expected to believe could be hosting the race next year.
I think it’s a clockwise circuit - if you look at the two sections of track that shorten the circuit, they don’t look set up for anti

TheDeuce

30,871 posts

88 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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The Moose said:
I think it’s a clockwise circuit - if you look at the two sections of track that shorten the circuit, they don’t look set up for anti
I thought that, but to be fair those connections seem a bit weird whatever direction.

I'm convinced it's anti clockwise though, because if you look at the tight turn on the back straight (lower right of the image), you can see the run-off can only possibly work anti-clockwise. Nor can a couple of others.

But it's all nonsense anyway. it won't run in either direction due to never happening smile

slipstream 1985

13,434 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Looks terrible. Interlagos is a great track as it is.

thegreenhell

21,492 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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The Moose said:
I think it’s a clockwise circuit - if you look at the two sections of track that shorten the circuit, they don’t look set up for anti
It's anti-CW if you look at the way the gravel traps are set up.

thegreenhell

21,492 posts

241 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Drive Blind said:
so they are going to build an F1 track from scratch in 1 year? Is that even possible?

Without even looking at the detail the track doesn't look like a modern f1 circuit. Run off looks too small and theres none of the modern track design trademarks eg a good straight followed by a big stop into a tight turn.
It looks state-of-the-art... from about 20 years ago. They have gravel traps instead of acres of tarmac runoff for a start. It would make a nice national-level circuit if it ever got built.

The Moose

23,528 posts

231 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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TheDeuce said:
The Moose said:
I think it’s a clockwise circuit - if you look at the two sections of track that shorten the circuit, they don’t look set up for anti
I thought that, but to be fair those connections seem a bit weird whatever direction.

I'm convinced it's anti clockwise though, because if you look at the tight turn on the back straight (lower right of the image), you can see the run-off can only possibly work anti-clockwise. Nor can a couple of others.

But it's all nonsense anyway. it won't run in either direction due to never happening smile
On second thought, I think you're right

chunder27

2,309 posts

230 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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The guy with the idea is probably a director of the company planning to build it.

Pure nonsense. Nothing wrong with Interlagos at all.

PHuzzy

2,747 posts

194 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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TheDeuce said:
I thought that, but to be fair those connections seem a bit weird whatever direction.

I'm convinced it's anti clockwise though, because if you look at the tight turn on the back straight (lower right of the image), you can see the run-off can only possibly work anti-clockwise. Nor can a couple of others.

But it's all nonsense anyway. it won't run in either direction due to never happening smile
I'd say the connections turn it into two smaller anti clockwise tracks rather than shortening the main track in any way.

As has been said, looks a nice design but chances of coming to fruition are single digit percentage at best. frown

TheDeuce

30,871 posts

88 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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chunder27 said:
The guy with the idea is probably a director of the company planning to build it.

Pure nonsense. Nothing wrong with Interlagos at all.
You enjoyed the last race at Interlagos then?

ukaskew

10,642 posts

243 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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The paddock at Castle Combe is bigger than that! Anti-clockwise (which it defibately is, see run-off at bottom right) it's a nice circuit, but 7 months to build that?! I assume they'll need some test events too.

racy7

18 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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here we go again
reminds me of the Donnington fiasco

TheDeuce

30,871 posts

88 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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racy7 said:
here we go again
reminds me of the Donnington fiasco
Donnington doesn't really exist either? eek