Carbon Ceramic Brakes on a Vantage?
Discussion
I don't have the new Vantage, but I do have the old V12V with Carbon Ceramics and find them to be excellent on the road (and track). No problems with feel or power, actually they have lots of both at all times, nor do they need to be warmed up for full effect. I highly doubt they would make the new ones less good than on the older models.
That said, if you intend to drive the car hard regularly, or on track much, then I would definitely take steel brakes, just for the sheer cost of replacing carbon ceramics when they wear out (which they do on track!). If it's just road use, and normal driving, then the CCM's in my view should be more reliable, powerful and have great longevity to both discs and pads.
That said, if you intend to drive the car hard regularly, or on track much, then I would definitely take steel brakes, just for the sheer cost of replacing carbon ceramics when they wear out (which they do on track!). If it's just road use, and normal driving, then the CCM's in my view should be more reliable, powerful and have great longevity to both discs and pads.
Edited by RiknRoll on Thursday 9th May 16:29
Johnny42 said:
Does anyone have them yet, and are they any good for normal road use? I'm thinking they may be poor until hot, so it might be better to have the iron rotors. They are standard on the AMR Vantage, and I'm sure I won't be able to test drive a car with the ceramics!
you're mistaking carbon carbon brakes in an F1 car (which need to be hot to work properly) with carbon ceramic brakes in a road carcarbon brakes in a road car like vantage do not need to warm up to work properly
nor, contrary to popular misconception, do they in most road car applications offer better braking
the key benefit of CCMs is lack of brake fade, more important in a front engined aston than say a mclaren or porsche weighing 20% less and with engine at the rear. On track for even a relative novice, or a really hard days driving in the alps, that is a huge benefit
beyond that, in most applications they are lighter weight and there is less brake dust
they also last much longer IF there is not too much hard core driving, particularly lots of track driving
downsides are cost, susceptibility to damage if not looked after (eg with harsh cleaning products) and in some applications (though not aston) less brake feel
Speaking of CCMs, I just saw this on the AMOC forum. Downright scary! Anyone here seen the same thing? How about B&R?
https://forum.amoc.org/post/disc-failure-10128697?...
https://forum.amoc.org/post/disc-failure-10128697?...
divetheworld said:
and they are sh t in the wet. Long motorway miles without braking in torrential rain can cause sphincter puckering moment if you need to slam on.
Just saying it...
Many cars will occasionally bring the pads into contact with the rotors to keep the brakes dried off and warm under these circumstances. Does anyone know if the current generation of Astons (with Merc tech) do this? I would assume so....Just saying it...
I do like the fact that my car has CCB,s they were standard fitment any way. They do need more care though when washing the wheels or removing them.
If you only use the car on the road i think they are great, but if you want to do track days they could work out very expensive.
Also if they were an option not sure i would pay the extra for them.
If you only use the car on the road i think they are great, but if you want to do track days they could work out very expensive.
Also if they were an option not sure i would pay the extra for them.
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