Quick Network Question.....

[paulrockliffe]

I hope! They never are though are they....

Anyway, I have a computer in the house, a server in the house and a computer in my workshop. The house stuff is on the same router/switch that does DHCP etc. The workshop has a switch that is connected to router in the house, the computer is connected to that alongside a printer and a Wireless AP. All devices have internet and are working properly. I can see all the devices and their IP addresses in the router's admin page.

I can see my server from my house PC and access network shares, but the workshop PC doesn't appear in my list of Computers in Network so I can't access it's network shares. I can't see either the house PC or the server from the workshop PC.

I can see the workshop PC as a Media Device in Windows Explorer, so it's not completely anonymous, though it own't play any media that way.

All devices are on Workgroup

It looks like the issue is the switch, but it's just a switch, no settings etc to mess about with, so I guess the issue is somewhere else.

Does anyone have an quick fixes?

[bitchstewie]

If you know the server name or IP address what happens if you go into Windows explorer and browse to \\servername or \\x.x.x.x

[rsbmw]

As above, get the IP and test browsing/Ping.

Then, regardless of the result, disable windows firewall on the workshop PC and marvel at how everything has started working.

Can't see how the switch will be any part of this. Is it definitely a switch and not a hub?

[paulrockliffe]

bhstewie said:

If you know the server name or IP address what happens if you go into Windows explorer and browse to \\servername or \\x.x.x.x

Tells me to ps off.

[paulrockliffe]

rsbmw said:

As above, get the IP and test browsing/Ping.

Then, regardless of the result, disable windows firewall on the workshop PC and marvel at how everything has started working.

Can't see how the switch will be any part of this. Is it definitely a switch and not a hub?

C:\Users\PC>ping 192.168.1.61

Pinging 192.168.1.61 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.61:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Users\PC>ping blacksmiths

Pinging Blacksmiths [fe80::95e1:3128:d93a:9228%17] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from fe80::95e1:3128:d93a:9228%17: time=1ms
Reply from fe80::95e1:3128:d93a:9228%17: time<1ms
Reply from fe80::95e1:3128:d93a:9228%17: time<1ms
Reply from fe80::95e1:3128:d93a:9228%17: time<1ms

Ping statistics for fe80::95e1:3128:d93a:9228%17:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

C:\Users\PC>

[paulrockliffe]

paulrockliffe said:

bhstewie said:

If you know the server name or IP address what happens if you go into Windows explorer and browse to \\servername or \\x.x.x.x

Tells me to ps off.

Windows explorer opens the IP address in chrome and refuses to connect.

\\blacksmiths asks me for a username and password, but refuses all the combinations I can think of. I use the same username and password on both machines I think, though one of them might be using a Microsoft Account to login in. Does that look like I should add a user on the Blacksmiths PC and use those credentials?

[paulrockliffe]

I'm logged into one PC with my old email address and the other with my new email address. I'm not sure if these are the same Microsoft Account, not sure i know the password for the old email address, but I'll try to work that out then try those as credentials for accessing remotely.

[rsbmw]

I would disabled ipv6 across the board, will only complicate things.

Getting Auth challenged is good, you'll probably find username will need to be remotemachinename\username

Windows firewall?

[paulrockliffe]

Hmmmm, that doesn't work. I found the correct password and checked it by logging into Microsoft with it, gets rejected when trying to log into the remote PC.

I've checked, I'm logged into both computers with one Microsoft Account, so I'd have thought that would let me in!

[paulrockliffe]

rsbmw said:

I would disabled ipv6 across the board, will only complicate things.

Getting Auth challenged is good, you'll probably find username will need to be remotemachinename\username

Windows firewall?

IPv6 is off at the router as far as I can see.

I tried the username in that format and it rejected them all as well.

Do I need to look at both firewalls?

[WinstonWolf]

paulrockliffe said:

Hmmmm, that doesn't work. I found the correct password and checked it by logging into Microsoft with it, gets rejected when trying to log into the remote PC.

I've checked, I'm logged into both computers with one Microsoft Account, so I'd have thought that would let me in!

Sounds like it's not a networking issue it's an auth one.

Final check, ping blacksmiths -4 to make it ping over V4 not 6

[paulrockliffe]

C:\Users\PC>ping blacksmiths -4

Pinging Blacksmiths [192.168.1.61] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.61: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.61:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 1ms, Average = 0ms

[paulrockliffe]

I turned on "File and Printer Sharing over SMBDirect" in the Firewall and I can see the remote PC in the list of computers now. Just need to log in......

[WinstonWolf]

paulrockliffe said:

I turned on "File and Printer Sharing over SMBDirect" in the Firewall and I can see the remote PC in the list of computers now. Just need to log in......

As above, it *should* let you log on as RemotePCName\RemotePCUserName with the password that you use to log on to the remote PC.

[paulrockliffe]

WinstonWolf said:

paulrockliffe said:

I turned on "File and Printer Sharing over SMBDirect" in the Firewall and I can see the remote PC in the list of computers now. Just need to log in......

As above, it *should* let you log on as RemotePCName\RemotePCUserName with the password that you use to log on to the remote PC.

That's definitely not happening! I've tried every combo of username and password several times, still getting bounced

[WinstonWolf]

paulrockliffe said:

WinstonWolf said:

paulrockliffe said:

I turned on "File and Printer Sharing over SMBDirect" in the Firewall and I can see the remote PC in the list of computers now. Just need to log in......

As above, it *should* let you log on as RemotePCName\RemotePCUserName with the password that you use to log on to the remote PC.

That's definitely not happening! I've tried every combo of username and password several times, still getting bounced

Set up another local user on the remote PC with a known name and password, then log on as that user to make sure it's all good then use those credentials.

[rsbmw]

paulrockliffe said:

That's definitely not happening! I've tried every combo of username and password several times, still getting bounced

Create a new local user on that machine - user1 for example
On the remote machine, share a folder (share1), giving share and NTFS permissions to the new user
Connect to \\blacksmiths\share1, log in with blacksmiths\user1

[paulrockliffe]

Crikey, they make it hard to add a user that doesn't have a Microsoft Account, took some searching to find that option hidden away!

It's fixed now though, I'm in!

Thanks for your help, I wasn't expecting to be able to sort it quickly!

[paulrockliffe]

Just working through all the moving of files required to format a disk into the array, then moving the data back.

Does anyone mind talking me through exactly how the array works? I've setup a Share for TV Series and I'm dragging stuff into that, is it just dropping data to any old disk? If so, does it move stuff around to keep the discs evenly filled, or anything like that?

Last question, can I add a parity drive without having to format all the drives again?

Ta.

[rsbmw]

What sort of array have you set up?

Unlikely you can add a parity disk without rebuilding.