Perfect two car garage for young family - Cayenne AND 911 ?
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Hi all,
Long time member, first time poster here. Sorry for the long post:
I have a bit of a first world problem that I was thinking the PH community could help me with. I am due to change my car shortly, its a 2016 BMW 530d Touring. Its been decent for the family (wife + two young children aged 2 and 4) but the PCP is ending and I want to change.
For ages I was considering to get a new diesel Volvo XC 90 to replace the BMW. I think its a classy looking vehicle and loads of space inside for the kids and their stuff.
Additionally, I was going to get a second-hand Porsche 911 997.2 as a second car. I love the understated cool of the 911.
Here is the problem; I test drove the XC90 as well as a Range Rover Vogue, Range Rover Velar, Porsche Cayenne Hybrid and a Tesla Model X. I really liked the Model X but I felt it was too expensive (for what it was) and I am not ready to go full EV for a family car. I absolutely loved the Cayenne Hybrid - fast, smooth and a real quality car. The fact that we could do the daily school run etc in EV mode is a real plus (BMW currently averaging 21 MPG). I would have ordered one already but they have suspended production until Sept the dealer tells me and I don't want to leave a £3k deposit with the dealer until they can confirm the spec etc. I live in London so the Diesels are becoming rapidly less appealing.
I just think I will look like a bit of a wally with a Cayenne and a 911 parked in front of my house!! Its a luxury problem I know, a bit of a silly thing to get bothered about but I don't want to look like such a Porsche fanboy or flash git.
Significant depreciation on a new family SUV is unavoidable, but I like the idea of buying a 997 or similar and it hopefully holding its value over the next 5 years or so (I won't rely on it as an 'investment').
I have also considered an E46 M3 or CSL as a second car alternative but not sure. I am put off by pricing of the CSL. If I stick with the original 997 plan, I have the dilemma of which one to get. I very much like the C4S on the gen 2 cars (I like the design of the rear vs C2). I could afford a decent Turbo also, love its legendary status but I find the massive spoiler a bit of turn off (don't want to look too flash - see above). I have seen on this forum people saying that the C4S could depreciate over the mid to long term, and the Turbos are overpriced.
I would appreciate the advice of the community on this:
Are there any alternatives to the 997 or M3 that are cool, fun to drive and shouldn't depreciate too much over a 5 year period?
Should I get over myself and get the Cayenne and the 911?
Which 997 to get?
Thanks for reading - looking forward to seeing your advice.
Long time member, first time poster here. Sorry for the long post:
I have a bit of a first world problem that I was thinking the PH community could help me with. I am due to change my car shortly, its a 2016 BMW 530d Touring. Its been decent for the family (wife + two young children aged 2 and 4) but the PCP is ending and I want to change.
For ages I was considering to get a new diesel Volvo XC 90 to replace the BMW. I think its a classy looking vehicle and loads of space inside for the kids and their stuff.
Additionally, I was going to get a second-hand Porsche 911 997.2 as a second car. I love the understated cool of the 911.
Here is the problem; I test drove the XC90 as well as a Range Rover Vogue, Range Rover Velar, Porsche Cayenne Hybrid and a Tesla Model X. I really liked the Model X but I felt it was too expensive (for what it was) and I am not ready to go full EV for a family car. I absolutely loved the Cayenne Hybrid - fast, smooth and a real quality car. The fact that we could do the daily school run etc in EV mode is a real plus (BMW currently averaging 21 MPG). I would have ordered one already but they have suspended production until Sept the dealer tells me and I don't want to leave a £3k deposit with the dealer until they can confirm the spec etc. I live in London so the Diesels are becoming rapidly less appealing.
I just think I will look like a bit of a wally with a Cayenne and a 911 parked in front of my house!! Its a luxury problem I know, a bit of a silly thing to get bothered about but I don't want to look like such a Porsche fanboy or flash git.
Significant depreciation on a new family SUV is unavoidable, but I like the idea of buying a 997 or similar and it hopefully holding its value over the next 5 years or so (I won't rely on it as an 'investment').
I have also considered an E46 M3 or CSL as a second car alternative but not sure. I am put off by pricing of the CSL. If I stick with the original 997 plan, I have the dilemma of which one to get. I very much like the C4S on the gen 2 cars (I like the design of the rear vs C2). I could afford a decent Turbo also, love its legendary status but I find the massive spoiler a bit of turn off (don't want to look too flash - see above). I have seen on this forum people saying that the C4S could depreciate over the mid to long term, and the Turbos are overpriced.
I would appreciate the advice of the community on this:
Are there any alternatives to the 997 or M3 that are cool, fun to drive and shouldn't depreciate too much over a 5 year period?
Should I get over myself and get the Cayenne and the 911?
Which 997 to get?
Thanks for reading - looking forward to seeing your advice.
Here's the thing you know what cars you like so get them, as for waiting for the Hybrid why not get a lightly used one that's already lost a bit depreciation wise & that way you'll have more to spend on a very nice 997.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Or you could just get one of these:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new...
You may spend a bit more on fuel but the 5 year warranty & 3 years of servicing should ease the pain plus you'll have a stupid grin on your face every time you use it.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Or you could just get one of these:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new...
You may spend a bit more on fuel but the 5 year warranty & 3 years of servicing should ease the pain plus you'll have a stupid grin on your face every time you use it.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
wow! Came on here to post almost exactly the same question!
I have a budget of around 110k for a two car garage with a baby due. One needs to be an SUV. Currently have a facelift RS3 which would effectively become my commuting car and was looking at a GLC63S for the family / wife / weekend car.
Also considering a 991 911.
So will be watching this with interest!
I have a budget of around 110k for a two car garage with a baby due. One needs to be an SUV. Currently have a facelift RS3 which would effectively become my commuting car and was looking at a GLC63S for the family / wife / weekend car.
Also considering a 991 911.
So will be watching this with interest!
Are there any alternatives to the 997 or M3 that are cool, fun to drive and shouldn't depreciate too much over a 5 year period?
I would get the XC90 and a 911.
I think a CSL is cooler but they are overpriced unless you're really into them. You might want to look at S63 AMG coupes...amazing cars but far from depreciation proof
I would get the XC90 and a 911.
I think a CSL is cooler but they are overpriced unless you're really into them. You might want to look at S63 AMG coupes...amazing cars but far from depreciation proof

Thanks all!
I am not to worried about the scratches and dents in London. Around where I live it’s very suburban and folks are generally decent.
The 911 Turbo is the most crazy I would go. I have however considered a Maclaren MP4 12C. I would lose the two small seats in the back (bad) but I consider it to be a proper rare and cool looking super car. I much prefer it to the more modern Maclarens. Not sure about long term values though. I wouldn’t expect them to depreciate too much ?
I am not to worried about the scratches and dents in London. Around where I live it’s very suburban and folks are generally decent.
The 911 Turbo is the most crazy I would go. I have however considered a Maclaren MP4 12C. I would lose the two small seats in the back (bad) but I consider it to be a proper rare and cool looking super car. I much prefer it to the more modern Maclarens. Not sure about long term values though. I wouldn’t expect them to depreciate too much ?
nick s said:
wow! Came on here to post almost exactly the same question!
I have a budget of around 110k for a two car garage with a baby due. One needs to be an SUV. Currently have a facelift RS3 which would effectively become my commuting car and was looking at a GLC63S for the family / wife / weekend car.
Also considering a 991 911.
So will be watching this with interest!
Get the wife one of these:I have a budget of around 110k for a two car garage with a baby due. One needs to be an SUV. Currently have a facelift RS3 which would effectively become my commuting car and was looking at a GLC63S for the family / wife / weekend car.
Also considering a 991 911.
So will be watching this with interest!
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
997 GT3
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
991 GTS
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
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