New (old) tyres?!
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Noticing that my rear tyres on my V12 Vantage are dated 2013, and have limited tread left. Not completely worn, maybe 3/4mm left but 6 years old, I ordered a new set online this week.
Tyres turned up but have a date code of 1716, or May 2016, making them 3 years old before they go on the car.
Would this bother you guys, am I being too fussy, or would you expect new tyres to be New new tyres!?
Tyres turned up but have a date code of 1716, or May 2016, making them 3 years old before they go on the car.
Would this bother you guys, am I being too fussy, or would you expect new tyres to be New new tyres!?
I cant say I've ever checked the dates on new tyres, but I've had a couple of occasions when old tyres have had to be binned due to perishing (tread depth was more than adequate). Both the Bridgestone OEM's on the Vantage and OEM Pirelli P Zero's on the Vanquish appeared to have a shelf life of about 5 years, at which point they start to crack longitudinally between tread blocks (and unless you can get the car up on a lift or take the wheels off, it's hard to see them).
This is countered by usage though; if the car's being used frequently, it'll keep the tyres quite subtle, so despite the increased wear, they stay alive longer and they wont have chance to harden. Both my cars sat for long periods, and were on their original boots so it was somewhat a perfect storm of lack of use and old age.
Do the new boots look and feel relatively soft (and dare I say it, rubbery?). If there's any sort of crusty texture it's probably better to reject them.
This is countered by usage though; if the car's being used frequently, it'll keep the tyres quite subtle, so despite the increased wear, they stay alive longer and they wont have chance to harden. Both my cars sat for long periods, and were on their original boots so it was somewhat a perfect storm of lack of use and old age.
Do the new boots look and feel relatively soft (and dare I say it, rubbery?). If there's any sort of crusty texture it's probably better to reject them.
Yes, it should bother you. I bought a set of Michelin tires for a 1980 Mercedes Benz 500SLC that were about 3 years old and within 6 months, they started to dry rot. I made Costco take them back under warranty. I was told that it was because it was a rare size and that they did not sell many. That may or may not be the case but unless you plan on wearing them out in less than 3 years, I would want newer tires.
alabbasi said:
Yes, it should bother you. I bought a set of Michelin tires for a 1980 Mercedes Benz 500SLC that were about 3 years old and within 6 months, they started to dry rot. I made Costco take them back under warranty. I was told that it was because it was a rare size and that they did not sell many. That may or may not be the case but unless you plan on wearing them out in less than 3 years, I would want newer tires.
Completely agree. Its also a reason I try and buy the newer tyre types, the Michelin P4S are not only a lot better than OEM they're also guaranteed to be new. When I bought my car the dealer told me they had fitted new tyres all round, great I thought if I don't wear them out I have 5 years before they need replacing. When it came to my second MOT there was an advisory, cracked front tyres, not happy, checked date codes and they were 3 years old when fitted, next service complained to dealer who replaced them hoping to get refund from tyre supplier, they didn't get a refund, but I did get them replaced for free.
Tyres can last a very long time and you can see numerous articles on the web suggesting up to 10 years old is acceptable.
However 'new' tyres that are already 3 years old is taking the p*ss. Call them and tell them you are rejecting them for a full refund. Tyres will never be 'brand new' as it takes time to get through the supply chain and to the customer. I would have thought up to a year old would be acceptable but more than that then they should explicitly declare it.
However 'new' tyres that are already 3 years old is taking the p*ss. Call them and tell them you are rejecting them for a full refund. Tyres will never be 'brand new' as it takes time to get through the supply chain and to the customer. I would have thought up to a year old would be acceptable but more than that then they should explicitly declare it.
Hi, in Germany dealers are allowed to sell tires as "new" until they are 3 years after DOT. Rare tires sizes (like for the Astons) are very often not "really" new because of small customer group and long storage times.
Michelin says, that tires up to 3 years are new and without any declining quality.
Some weeks ago i bought my PS4S for the Vantage and they are already two years. Couldn't get newer ones, because there are none ...
regards
Torsten
Michelin says, that tires up to 3 years are new and without any declining quality.
Some weeks ago i bought my PS4S for the Vantage and they are already two years. Couldn't get newer ones, because there are none ...
regards
Torsten
morty1961 said:
where is the date stamp on the tyres ... I have just ordered a full set of PS4S for my V12 so will check when they arrive
some info here for you to readEdited by Kumayama on Thursday 23 May 08:24
If im buying new tyres, I would like them say less than 12 months old. They can go off especially on a low mileage use car. I have had MOT advisory before for cracked tyres that had only been on the car 3 years and 12k miles yet when checked the tyres were 6 yr old.
It could be this size of tyre/AM compound tyre is such low volume, so I guess may sit on the shelf of suppliers for years......what is the limit of acceptance for the tyre place to supply ? I wouldn't be happy spending £600 on a pair of tyres and they have been on the shelf 4-5 years ?!
It could be this size of tyre/AM compound tyre is such low volume, so I guess may sit on the shelf of suppliers for years......what is the limit of acceptance for the tyre place to supply ? I wouldn't be happy spending £600 on a pair of tyres and they have been on the shelf 4-5 years ?!
Kumayama said:
Many thanks mate...perfectGassing Station | Aston Martin | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff