Occy Health referral for my team - too much info?
Occy Health referral for my team - too much info?
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echazfraz

Original Poster:

772 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Mods - if better in Jobs & Employment Matters please move - it's about GDPR mainly. Anyway:

I have agreed with a member of my team to refer them to our employer's occupational health provider to see what more we could do to accommodate their health problems at work.

My employer outsources its occupational health service to a third party. The third party requires that users of its service create an account for the web portal via which users interact with said third party's support staff.

In order to set my account up I am being asked for my home address and date of birth (via my employer's HR dept) by this third party provider of a workplace service.

I've been given no information on how my data's to be processed/stored/used/shared/deleted etc. other than the assertion that it's in case "I need a referral in the future" (which doesn't seem like a valid reason to gather my data now.

Am I out of order in thinking that this is out of order?

Do I need to recalibrate my tinfoil hat?

Bit of both of the above?!

Scuse formatting, on mobile, etc.

MissChief

7,839 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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I fail to see the necessity of your home details. I’d just out the work address tbh.

Caddyshack

13,952 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Why worry, it’s only basic info that people could easily find out if they could be bothered.

I think people are a bit too "tin foil hat" about that info as it is a legit 3rd party asking for the info and clearly not a scammer.

Drumroll

4,367 posts

143 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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I just gave my office address as my home address when I was asked for this. Never had an issue.

Jasandjules

71,984 posts

252 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Why is your HR department not dealing with this?

Mandat

4,403 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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MissChief said:
I fail to see the necessity of your home details. I’d just out the work address tbh.
Presumably, if you are off work on sick leave, they will have a way of contacting you, rather than at the workplace.

bitchstewie

64,355 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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I'm of the recalibrate the tinfoil side tbh.

If they need to send you anything sensitive or personal by post do you want them sending it to work or home?

echazfraz

Original Poster:

772 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Cheers for replies so far guys, might not need the tinfoil hat right now.

Don't see how just anyone could find my address and d.o.b. (as suggested above).

Some info omitted from the OP:

Helpful lady from HR suggested that I could put the office address, then her boss said I couldn't and must put my details in or I couldn't make the referral.

I stuck the third party's head office address and an approximation of the CEO's date of birth (both from Companies House) in on Thursday, and they did set an account up for me.

Logged-in today and lo and behold I can see the records (name and home address) of staff in my wider office!

So they want my data and demonstrably can't store it securely.

It's a point of principle now really - the OH lot were fking ste when I called them up about something previously too.



bitchstewie

64,355 posts

233 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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echazfraz said:
Logged-in today and lo and behold I can see the records (name and home address) of staff in my wider office!
And 2 minutes after I post I'm going to backtrack and say yes, that's genuine cause for concern smile

echazfraz

Original Poster:

772 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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Sorry, phone makes quoting hard.

Those saying it's for contact - my employer's HR dept have this info and I'm happy for them to have it, and to contact me in the event of medical stuff.

My issue is the third party has no legitimate need that I can see for this data.

echazfraz

Original Poster:

772 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th May 2019
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bhstewie said:
And 2 minutes after I post I'm going to backtrack and say yes, that's genuine cause for concern smile
I was threatened with disciplinary for putting false details into the system, they've now been threatened with GDPR.

Cherry on the top is we're a govt. dept!

grumpy52

5,956 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th May 2019
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echazfraz said:
bhstewie said:
And 2 minutes after I post I'm going to backtrack and say yes, that's genuine cause for concern smile
I was threatened with disciplinary for putting false details into the system, they've now been threatened with GDPR.

Cherry on the top is we're a govt. dept!
Ahh Government and Local authorities, mad keen on Data protection, unless they can make money out of it !!
Cynical? Mio ?