Official 2019 Canada Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[Piginapoke]

It’s Canada, scene of one of the best ever GPs and certainly Button’s best win. A circuit that rewards power, power and more power. Mercedes are bringing their 1st 2019 PU upgrade and, in all likelihood, will win. Roll on 2020.

Date(s): Friday 7 June 2019 - Sunday 9 June 2019

UK Broadcast Timings (and local time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1; only highlights are shown on Channel 4:





Live timing for all sessions available here:

https://www.formula1.com/en/f1-live.html

Lap times, PU component use, technical reports and Stewards' decisions for the weekend will appear here:

https://www.fia.com/events/fia-formula-one-world-c...

Weather forecast:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/6077243

Tyre Choices:



2018 Qualifying Result:



2018 Race Result:



2018 race highlights:

https://youtu.be/-gG3Sa0ReEk

Last year, Ferrari's Sebastian Vettel dominated the Canadian Grand Prix to retake the championship lead as Lewis Hamilton could finish only fifth for Mercedes.

Vettel converted pole position into a lead at the first corner and was never headed as he kept Mercedes' Valtteri Bottas at arm's length throughout the race.

Red Bull's Max Verstappen took third after a valiant but unsuccessful attempt to pass Bottas through the first two corners.

Hamilton started fourth but dropped back to finish fifth and is was point behind Vettel a third of the way through the season.

In a bizarre end, the chequered flag was waved a lap too early by model Winnie Harlow.

[Mr_Thyroid]

If Hamilton wins again I've a feeling that Bottas' fight will fade and Lewis will cruise to the title - in fact if he wins and Bottas is 5th the gap between the two will be the same as it was last year.

[Deesee]

Thanks op..

This should be a Ferrari track, (new front wing too)..

McLaren should be up there as leading midfield.

Merc might bring the new spec 2 1030 hp engine.. even so they’ll need to shed some downforce to challenge at the front.

[Jasandjules]

Be shocked if we are not looking at a Merc 1-2.

[TheDeuce]

I started a separate thread about it - Mercedes PU update incoming. It might well be in place for Canada - if so... Good luck to the others.

If not.. good luck to the others still..

My question for this race is whether red bull can compete with Ferarri on this type of track. On paper they shouldn't be able to do so, but with enough strategy and hard work Ferrari might find a way to let themselves down again.

Edited by TheDeuce on Saturday 1st June 18:45

[Cold]

Ch 4, 11 o'clock at night.

Must be a deliberate industry ploy to lose viewers.

[threespires]

Cold said:

Ch 4, 11 o'clock at night.

Must be a deliberate industry ploy to lose viewers.

I seem to remember reading on these pages that Ch 4 have to have a 3 hour delay at race end before they can transmit.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Cold said:

Ch 4, 11 o'clock at night.

Must be a deliberate industry ploy to lose viewers those people who love a sport but not enough to contribute to the running of it.

[Cold]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Cold said:

Ch 4, 11 o'clock at night.

Must be a deliberate industry ploy to lose viewers those people who love a sport but not enough to contribute to the running of it.

I'm a consumer not an employee.

[The Moose]

Cold said:

I'm a consumer not an employee.

Isn’t that the point?!

[Cold]

The Moose said:

Isn’t that the point?!

I'm not sure what point is trying to be made.

Making it difficult or awkward to view something isn't a good ploy for the entertainment business. Make it easy for consumers to consume and they'll consume. Watching and enjoying motorsport isn't some secret exclusive club only for members. It's showbiz, that's all.

[F1GTRUeno]

I'm usually guilty of saying Canada is the best race of the year due the several good ones in the 90's (at least, IIRC) and of course, 2011 which was, once it got going, probably my favourite grand prix ever but I think removing the rose-tinted glasses, not much actually happens in a typical race here.

If we're lucky people get punchy into the hairpin and then everything else is done by DRS down the back straight well before the chicane or down the main straight well before the first turn.

Maybe a few slide into the wall of champions but even that seems to have been made much easier compared to the past.

Not expecting much more than a Merc 1-2 but hopefully something mad will happen like 2011 and then it's all up for grabs.

[The Moose]

Cold said:

The Moose said:

Isn’t that the point?!

I'm not sure what point is trying to be made.

Making it difficult or awkward to view something isn't a good ploy for the entertainment business. Make it easy for consumers to consume and they'll consume. Watching and enjoying motorsport isn't some secret exclusive club only for members. It's showbiz, that's all.

What I mean is that they (Sky) are making it awkward for you to watch (sorry, I can’t refer to watching a F1 race as consuming!) the race so you are more likely (if you’re a fan) to spend the money with them (subscription, NowTV etc).

Sometimes with the fly away races you’ll find the C4 highlights are at a better time!

[DanielSan]

The Moose said:

What I mean is that they (Sky) are making it awkward for you to watch (sorry, I can’t refer to watching a F1 race as consuming!) the race so you are more likely (if you’re a fan) to spend the money with them (subscription, NowTV etc).

Sometimes with the fly away races you’ll find the C4 highlights are at a better time!

Still don't get why Sky get all the blame, blame the beeb for wanting to show yet another talentless show on a Saturday night so they binned off the F1 coverage and all but refused to let another terrestrial channel have the coverage on it's own without Sky taking the major share of coverage...

[anonymous-user]

Mr_Thyroid said:

If Hamilton wins again I've a feeling that Bottas' fight will fade and will be told that Lewis will cruise to the title - in fact if he wins and Bottas is 5th the gap between the two will be the same as it was last year.

Fixed that for you.........

[HighwayStar]

DanielSan said:

The Moose said:

What I mean is that they (Sky) are making it awkward for you to watch (sorry, I can’t refer to watching a F1 race as consuming!) the race so you are more likely (if you’re a fan) to spend the money with them (subscription, NowTV etc).

Sometimes with the fly away races you’ll find the C4 highlights are at a better time!

Still don't get why Sky get all the blame, blame the beeb for wanting to show yet another talentless show on a Saturday night so they binned off the F1 coverage and all but refused to let another terrestrial channel have the coverage on it's own without Sky taking the major share of coverage...

We could go along with your simple view but it’s not really what or why it happened:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-35149963

[K50 DEL]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Cold said:

Ch 4, 11 o'clock at night.

Must be a deliberate industry ploy to lose viewers those people who love a sport but not enough to contribute to the running of it.

Not strictly true is it,
I should think I've watched something like 80% of race weekends over the last 12 years live, from FP1 through to the race.

This is the first season in that time where I've not been able to do that and I find that even this close to the start of the season I'm already less bothered.

Interestingly the same thing happened with the WRC a few years ago, I used to watch every bit of every rally, nowadays I couldn't even tell you who was competing.

Neither of these facts have anything to do with my interest levels (I'm still a rally competitor and I still love F1) instead it's to do with ease of access and value for money.

The WRC disappeared from TV years ago, becoming so hard to follow i just gave up.

F1 wise I would have no problem paying a sensible cost to follow but as I'm not a sky customer I think my minimum charge would be over £30 a month which simply isn't value in my book, so my interest wanes.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

In your view it isn't good value, in my view it is. Watching a minimum of six hours per GP each month I see the £perhour as very low indeed compared to other hobbies.

Not only do I feel I'm getting good VFM but I'm paying to create great content to watch.

If you want it all for free fair enough, that's your own way of living. Do you feel the same about grocery shopping? Hollywood movies?

It's no different to expecting to enjoy amazing literature (or films for instance) whilst reading it for free on the 'net.

[DanielSan]

HighwayStar said:

We could go along with your simple view but it’s not really what or why it happened:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-35149963

They had to find a way to pay for The Voice, a way of doing that was to bin off the F1 coverage... why would the BBC lie or cover up the real reason for anything? They've no reason to ever do that...

[Cold]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

In your view it isn't good value, in my view it is. Watching a minimum of six hours per GP each month I see the £perhour as very low indeed compared to other hobbies.

Not only do I feel I'm getting good VFM but I'm paying to create great content to watch.

If you want it all for free fair enough, that's your own way of living. Do you feel the same about grocery shopping? Hollywood movies?

It's no different to expecting to enjoy amazing literature (or films for instance) whilst reading it for free on the 'net.

No, I don't want it for free. I'm quite happy to sit through a couple of adverts every now and again. That seems like a fair exchange to watch cars with adverts on them drive around against a backdrop of advertisement hoardings and then pay attention to the what the drivers have to say while wearing overalls and hats festooned with adverts.
I'm not sure how the industry could monetise that though without charging me a fee so perhaps I'll eventually give up trying to watch.