Decent fake v real Daytona comparison vid
Decent fake v real Daytona comparison vid
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bigandclever

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14,191 posts

260 months

Tuesday 4th June 2019
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Interesting watchfinder post comparing fake Daytona with real. Not wanting to re-ignite the debate, just thought it was a decent comparison video.

https://youtu.be/upAJE_XhT2Y

woody33

258 posts

130 months

Tuesday 4th June 2019
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Some of the replicas coming out of China at the moment is absolutely amazing. Their motivation to achieve a high quality perfect product is getting to the point where they are approaching gen quality. The give-away was always the movement. If they are starting to rep that then I'm not sure what can be done.Quite depressing really........

Mr Pointy

12,763 posts

181 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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I'm no expert but that dial wasn't even close. The smeary red 'Daytona' was a dead giveaway.

woody33

258 posts

130 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Mr Pointy said:
I'm no expert but that dial wasn't even close. The smeary red 'Daytona' was a dead giveaway.
Thats nonsense. In isolation, you wouldn't have a fecking clue.

Mr Pointy

12,763 posts

181 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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woody33 said:
Mr Pointy said:
I'm no expert but that dial wasn't even close. The smeary red 'Daytona' was a dead giveaway.
Thats nonsense. In isolation, you wouldn't have a fecking clue.
That dial is crap. Even your guide dog could see it's got issues.

ashleyman

7,217 posts

121 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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UNITS PER HOUR is thicker on the fake then the gen. The typefaces always let the fakes down.

I know they make a replica 3135 movement that winds backwards. I've been told if you get it serviced by a professional it's actually very reliable!

Tony1963

5,808 posts

184 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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A reasonably keen enthusiast with a loupe would spot that fake in about five seconds. The corona on the fake is laughable.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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It boggles my mind that there’s seemingly a market for £1,000 fake Rolex’s. Who the hell drops that sort of cash on a fake, and why? You can get some extremely nice genuine timepieces for that sort of bunce, especially secondhand.

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

110 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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dvs_dave said:
It boggles my mind that there’s seemingly a market for £1,000 fake Rolex’s. Who the hell drops that sort of cash on a fake, and why? You can get some extremely nice genuine timepieces for that sort of bunce, especially secondhand.
Looking at it unemotionally: it looks the same, performs the same function, is made of the same materials. Just at a lower quality which is now very difficult to spot (I watched the video). Seems like a bargain, you're not paying for £3k of advertising.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

247 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Fast and Spurious said:
Looking at it unemotionally: it looks the same, performs the same function, is made of the same materials. Just at a lower quality which is now very difficult to spot (I watched the video). Seems like a bargain, you're not paying for £3k of advertising.
But a fake is instantly worthless, regardless of how much it’s bought for. The more you spend on it, the more of a ridiculous waste it is.

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Those fake movements are a bit of a new thing aren’t they?

Once the fakes are exactly the same as the genuine ones (can’t be that far away) then what’s the difference?

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

110 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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dvs_dave said:
But a fake is instantly worthless, regardless of how much it’s bought for. The more you spend on it, the more of a ridiculous waste it is.
Maybe, but if you've bought it to wear as a watch, and not worry about its worth? With a different name, but everything else unchanged, how much would it be worth?
Genuine question to you folks that may have the knowledge. Objectively it looks pretty decent quality to me.

lostkiwi

4,585 posts

146 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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When they get to the point where you need a loupe to spot the differences then 99.99999% of people would never know (or care unless they paid real money for a copy).

wag2

169 posts

253 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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The Watchfinder comment about how it makes you feel is right. We buy these watches to make us feel good and if the don't, what is the point?

mikeveal

5,018 posts

272 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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woody33 said:
Mr Pointy said:
I'm no expert but that dial wasn't even close. The smeary red 'Daytona' was a dead giveaway.
Thats nonsense. In isolation, you wouldn't have a fecking clue.
I paused the video at 35 seconds. The first decent shot of the two side by side.
Within about 10 seconds I had a strong feeling of which was which. Within 30 I was sure, the clarity of the script, the bezel engraving, the finish of the metal parts. I'm not a Rolex expert, but it was quickly obvious which was which.

But that was side by side on a 24inch monitor at 1080p. Which is equivalent to what, a 10x loupe? And unlike a loupe I could see both at teh same time. If you'd have given me that fake to examine with the naked eye and with nothing to compare against I wouldn't have been able to tell.

Having watched the video, using a loupe, I now could tell. The riveted ends holding the centre seconds hands and the subdial hands are shonky. But how long will it take our Chinese watchmakers to sort that out? The fonts aren't great and neither is the bezel, but I'd need a real example to compare against to be sure of detecting the fake.

I wonder what effect the availability of fakes like this will have on the second hand market? If enough of these hit the market, the inability to spot the difference between a fake and a real watch could burst the current bubble.

Such a shame that they couldn't focus all that talent at making something original.

xyz123

1,103 posts

151 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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A stupid question so am expecting some abuse but it's a genuine question. As said quality of fakes is improving obviously, but are these fakes readily available to purchase in London. Admittedly I don't work in Central London but in my frequent visits I haven't seen many selling fake watches...

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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xyz123 said:
A stupid question so am expecting some abuse but it's a genuine question. As said quality of fakes is improving obviously, but are these fakes readily available to purchase in London. Admittedly I don't work in Central London but in my frequent visits I haven't seen many selling fake watches...
They’re available from Chinese websites. It’s illegal to sell fakes in shops in the uk.

So

28,176 posts

244 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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xyz123 said:
A stupid question so am expecting some abuse but it's a genuine question. As said quality of fakes is improving obviously, but are these fakes readily available to purchase in London. Admittedly I don't work in Central London but in my frequent visits I haven't seen many selling fake watches...
That’s where the Chinese fakes are really clever. They are unavailable just like the genuine ones.

anonymous-user

76 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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So said:
xyz123 said:
A stupid question so am expecting some abuse but it's a genuine question. As said quality of fakes is improving obviously, but are these fakes readily available to purchase in London. Admittedly I don't work in Central London but in my frequent visits I haven't seen many selling fake watches...
That’s where the Chinese fakes are really clever. They are unavailable just like the genuine ones.
You need to schmooze the Chinese website owners and show knowledge and buy cheaper watches from them first. Only then can you buy the fake Daytona. It’s the procedure.

Barchettaman

7,087 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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They have, in certain examples, produced original (ish) designs that are both aesthetically pleasing and work well.

My Parnis diver has a bit of Omega PloProf and Doxa Shark about it, but isn’t a direct homage. It’s well finished (although the original strap was pretty pants) and I enjoy wearing it.

They make more money out of the direct copies and fakes, hence why they do it.

Picture of my Parnis below if anyone is interested. A few of us on here have bought one.