911T Used Market
Discussion
I remember the 911T being discussed when it was announced as the ‘no frills drivers 911’ but did it really meet with expectations or was it a total flop ?
I find the concept interesting being a stripped out car but then the weight saving is only 20kg’s.
Looking at used cars they are at dealers for little over 80k but seem to sit for long periods.
So is the 911T nothing more than a marketing exercise or is it really a ‘drivers’ 911?
I find the concept interesting being a stripped out car but then the weight saving is only 20kg’s.
Looking at used cars they are at dealers for little over 80k but seem to sit for long periods.
So is the 911T nothing more than a marketing exercise or is it really a ‘drivers’ 911?
It's certainly not a bargain GT3 Touring or 911R, in terms of being the 'pure drivers car'..
It's a nice proposition though, I see it as a tastefully specced Carrera with a few nice and unique touches, and just a but more sporty than the regular car.
They can't be a bad buy at the moment though IMO
It's a nice proposition though, I see it as a tastefully specced Carrera with a few nice and unique touches, and just a but more sporty than the regular car.
They can't be a bad buy at the moment though IMO
smithyithy said:
It's certainly not a bargain GT3 Touring or 911R, in terms of being the 'pure drivers car'..
It's a nice proposition though, I see it as a tastefully specced Carrera with a few nice and unique touches, and just a but more sporty than the regular car.
They can't be a bad buy at the moment though IMO
Yeah I think so too. It's a nice proposition though, I see it as a tastefully specced Carrera with a few nice and unique touches, and just a but more sporty than the regular car.
They can't be a bad buy at the moment though IMO
Nicely specced ( if u like that sort of thing) and not one you see too often.
I’ve seen some hanging around for some time in the classifieds but then lots o cars of all brands are currently
You might be in a decent position as a buyer then if that's the case.
Certainly as more 992s start popping up I think a lot of people will look back for cars like the T, so that might help values hold steady.
That seemed to be the case with the 997.2 GTS cars if I remember right, they weren't popping up in the classifieds in large numbers, but their prices were pretty strong alongside early 991.1 cars.
Certainly as more 992s start popping up I think a lot of people will look back for cars like the T, so that might help values hold steady.
That seemed to be the case with the 997.2 GTS cars if I remember right, they weren't popping up in the classifieds in large numbers, but their prices were pretty strong alongside early 991.1 cars.
FocusRS3 said:
I remember the 911T being discussed when it was announced as the ‘no frills drivers 911’ but did it really meet with expectations or was it a total flop ?
I find the concept interesting being a stripped out car but then the weight saving is only 20kg’s.
Looking at used cars they are at dealers for little over 80k but seem to sit for long periods.
So is the 911T nothing more than a marketing exercise or is it really a ‘drivers’ 911?
most people spec'd the pcm back in so the weight saving is 10kg as long as the thinner glass and rear seats were spec'd, less if otherwiseI find the concept interesting being a stripped out car but then the weight saving is only 20kg’s.
Looking at used cars they are at dealers for little over 80k but seem to sit for long periods.
So is the 911T nothing more than a marketing exercise or is it really a ‘drivers’ 911?
it's a marketing exercise imo as is the cayman T which the weight saving aspects come from pcm removal and fabric door pulls
To me it’s one of the more cynical marketing exercises that Porsche have done, it needed to have a 5% overall weight reduction to make the difference worthwhile, 10-20kg (max) is laughable. i am a big Porsche fan in general but this one was dressed up as something it wasn’t.
@focusrs3 If you search a thread called ‘anyone for T’ on here you can wade through 112 pages of chat on it....
@focusrs3 If you search a thread called ‘anyone for T’ on here you can wade through 112 pages of chat on it....
PS2018 said:
To me it’s one of the more cynical marketing exercises that Porsche have done, it needed to have a 5% overall weight reduction to make the difference worthwhile, 10-20kg (max) is laughable. i am a big Porsche fan in general but this one was dressed up as something it wasn’t.
@focusrs3 If you search a thread called ‘anyone for T’ on here you can wade through 112 pages of chat on it....
Lovely tks @focusrs3 If you search a thread called ‘anyone for T’ on here you can wade through 112 pages of chat on it....
rob.kellock said:
I have done 8k miles in mine which was one of the first U.K. cars to be delivered last year.
Cynical marketing exercise or not, what’s not to like about an entry level 911 with a manual gearbox and a few key options as standard?
Owners generally love them.
Yep as ever lots of the usual armchair experts on here who need to drive one before posting.Cynical marketing exercise or not, what’s not to like about an entry level 911 with a manual gearbox and a few key options as standard?
Owners generally love them.
Classic case of a Porsche exceeding the value of its parts. Similar to the 997GTS which was derided at launch but coveted now directly reflected in the ridiculously high residuals especially for 'manuel' cars.
The T will become quite collectable in a few years as the last of the narrow bodied 911s with essentially an analogue feel. Very similar to the 997.1 Carrera S in terms of sound, feedback and old school 911 traits which are largely lost other 991.2s and the 992.
A few cars around early Spring as is always the case with flippers etc but now only 8 on the OPC website however many of these are inappropriate weird or overspecced.
As ever, spec is key so in keeping with the cars ethos a basic spec with T pack nav and phone etc really is all you need.
RWS, PDK, sunroof and other needless and weighty add ons really are a waste of time and £ on this car imo.
av185 said:
Yep as ever lots of the usual armchair experts on here who need to drive one before posting.
Classic case of a Porsche exceeding the value of its parts. Similar to the 997GTS which was derided at launch but coveted now directly reflected in the ridiculously high residuals especially for 'manuel' cars.
The T will become quite collectable in a few years as the last of the narrow bodied 911s with essentially an analogue feel. Very similar to the 997.1 Carrera S in terms of sound, feedback and old school 911 traits which are largely lost other 991.2s and the 992.
A few cars around early Spring as is always the case with flippers etc but now only 8 on the OPC website however many of these are inappropriate weird or overspecced.
As ever, spec is key so in keeping with the cars ethos a basic spec with T pack nav and phone etc really is all you need.
RWS, PDK, sunroof and other needless and weighty add ons really are a waste of time and £ on this car imo.
Interesting point on RWS.Classic case of a Porsche exceeding the value of its parts. Similar to the 997GTS which was derided at launch but coveted now directly reflected in the ridiculously high residuals especially for 'manuel' cars.
The T will become quite collectable in a few years as the last of the narrow bodied 911s with essentially an analogue feel. Very similar to the 997.1 Carrera S in terms of sound, feedback and old school 911 traits which are largely lost other 991.2s and the 992.
A few cars around early Spring as is always the case with flippers etc but now only 8 on the OPC website however many of these are inappropriate weird or overspecced.
As ever, spec is key so in keeping with the cars ethos a basic spec with T pack nav and phone etc really is all you need.
RWS, PDK, sunroof and other needless and weighty add ons really are a waste of time and £ on this car imo.
Is that more desirable for owners ?
av185 said:
Yep as ever lots of the usual armchair experts on here who need to drive one before posting.
Classic case of a Porsche exceeding the value of its parts. Similar to the 997GTS which was derided at launch but coveted now directly reflected in the ridiculously high residuals especially for 'manuel' cars.
The T will become quite collectable in a few years as the last of the narrow bodied 911s with essentially an analogue feel. Very similar to the 997.1 Carrera S in terms of sound, feedback and old school 911 traits which are largely lost other 991.2s and the 992.
A few cars around early Spring as is always the case with flippers etc but now only 8 on the OPC website however many of these are inappropriate weird or overspecced.
As ever, spec is key so in keeping with the cars ethos a basic spec with T pack nav and phone etc really is all you need.
RWS, PDK, sunroof and other needless and weighty add ons really are a waste of time and £ on this car imo.
essentially isn't the car a base 911 withClassic case of a Porsche exceeding the value of its parts. Similar to the 997GTS which was derided at launch but coveted now directly reflected in the ridiculously high residuals especially for 'manuel' cars.
The T will become quite collectable in a few years as the last of the narrow bodied 911s with essentially an analogue feel. Very similar to the 997.1 Carrera S in terms of sound, feedback and old school 911 traits which are largely lost other 991.2s and the 992.
A few cars around early Spring as is always the case with flippers etc but now only 8 on the OPC website however many of these are inappropriate weird or overspecced.
As ever, spec is key so in keeping with the cars ethos a basic spec with T pack nav and phone etc really is all you need.
RWS, PDK, sunroof and other needless and weighty add ons really are a waste of time and £ on this car imo.
'Tighter rear constant transaxle with a mechanical limited-slip differential and torque vectoring, which you can’t get on the standard Carrera'
and the reduced soundeadening/door pullys, aside from that everything else could be optioned on the base car?
Basically yes - plus go-faster stripes, light weight glass, rear seat delete and stereo delete. And some colour co-ordination with wheels, mirrors, badges etc. They all come with partial sports chrono too with the mode selection dial on the steering wheel. Interior trim pack was also unique.
rob.kellock said:
Basically yes - plus go-faster stripes, light weight glass, rear seat delete and stereo delete. And some colour co-ordination with wheels, mirrors, badges etc. They all come with partial sports chrono too with the mode selection dial on the steering wheel. Interior trim pack was also unique.
so the mech lsd etc is essentially what people are saying makes the car better to drive as everything else doesn't actually affect any of the cars driving characteristics? a car can be more than the sum of of its parts but the parts don't do anything then it's an odd statementI forgot, the gearlever is shorter too. 
So that combines with the (optional on the standard car but standard on the T) short-shifter with a bit less weight, a noisy exhaust (optional on the standard car but standard on the T), less sound deadening, sports mode, PASM, grippy seats, PTV, narrow body and everything else.
I would agree that it does somehow add up to something more than the sum of its parts - the standard "options" are well judged and combine well together.
It's not going to be for everyone but I personally prefer it to the 997GTS I had before it (flak jacket on).
So that combines with the (optional on the standard car but standard on the T) short-shifter with a bit less weight, a noisy exhaust (optional on the standard car but standard on the T), less sound deadening, sports mode, PASM, grippy seats, PTV, narrow body and everything else.
I would agree that it does somehow add up to something more than the sum of its parts - the standard "options" are well judged and combine well together.
It's not going to be for everyone but I personally prefer it to the 997GTS I had before it (flak jacket on).
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